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[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 275 points 1 year ago (25 children)

Because he's doing everything to make it fail and destroy the platform, isn't it obvious?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 170 points 1 year ago (8 children)

No, you don't throw away $44 billion just for shit and giggles, not even if you are as rich as Musk. Musk is (probably) a narcissist who thought he could make it work in his delusional mind.

He wanted a mouthpiece for the MAGA crowd, and he probably thought the desire in the population for it, would make it succeed, if he made the platform embrace that. He probably envisioned himself as a great liberator, who would be celebrated for bringing free speech back to America.

Musk has been losing it for a long time, and it seems to only get worse.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who could of forseen brands not wanting to advertise over hate speech that would turn off half their customer base? I'd love screenshots of my companies products floating around next to seasticas and racism.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yes that's so strange, think of all the extra attention the controversies create!! I bet he planned to double the prices for advertising.

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, I don't think a narcissist would intentionally and publicly humiliate themselves the way Musk has done (Not a psychologist).

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Absolutely true, being humiliated is just about the worst thing for a narcissist.

An example of that, was when Elon Musk called the diver who actually rescued 13 children in Thailand a pedophile. Imagine that, calling the hero of the day a pedophile because you are butthurt!!

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He’s being bankrolled to keep it up and running for the next election. It will be interesting to see if the money runs out.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Nah Saudi money goes deep

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think a lot of “hardware” people underestimate software. Historically, hardware was way more complex but the hardware problems have kind of been solved. There’s only so many ways to design a phone or laptop. Software, meanwhile, has only become more complex and challenging.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I agree, but I don't see the point in this context?

The software to build and run Twitter, is probably not worth much besides for running Twitter. No Twitter means no value in the software for it either.

[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree, but I don’t see the point in this context?

I think they meant Musk thought managing development of the Twitter software would be easier than it was, given his prior… Involvement with Tesla and SpaceX.

I think a lot of “hardware” people underestimate software.

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[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, you don’t throw away $44 billion just for shit and giggles

Why not? Elon Musk is famously on ketamine, ambien, and a whole slew of mind-altering substances.

Given how the contract was written, and given how much Elon Musk fought against the contract, it was obvious that he made a short-term decision (likely while high on some substance), and then quickly regretted buying Twitter. Within a week or two, he started a court case to NOT BUY TWITTER, despite signing an ironclad contract.

In my mind, its really fucking obvious what happened. Elon Musk partied a little bit too hard with some mixture of ketamine+ambien+alcohol, it mixed weirdly in his brain and he made a bad decision. A few days later, when he sobered up a bit, he realized how shitty of a decision he made but it was too late to roll things back.


Everything else Elon Musk has done is just... shitty reputation management. He's trying to convince the world he's still got it, despite making a bad (possibly drug-induced) decision

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[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I truly think this is all his fucking up, nothing else. He was trying to take away features that probably align with the people who gave him money, but had no idea how to make it work and make money and is desperate. Desperation makes you even more stupid.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't see the conspiracy.

My assumption is the investors immediately got what they wanted. They are not stupid.

Money men don't hand over money to these front men based on promises. This isn't a Hollywood movie. There was an immediate pay off.

They got SpaceX stock.

[–] aricene@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Investors will absolutely hand over money to front men making bad, even obviously insane, promises, though. People are always more easily manipulated than they like to believe, but people who've convinced themselves they're infallible titans of industry are even more vulnerable to it. (Especially the ones who think that they see through the scam and won't be left holding the bag.)

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Money men get conned so fucking often it isn’t even funny.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I didn't say it was a conspiracy. I said they gave him money after he was already fucking up by paying around 30 billion more than it was worth, firing all the people that did stuff, and generally being a bad CEO so he would do what they want. More of a typical business deal really.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Actually they may not be worth much either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYURUiOjZSw

Thunderfoot has spend a lot of time analyzing most things Musk, and SpaceX specifically does not have a market (TAM) to achieve what they claim.

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[–] notapantsday@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know. The way it's going down, it really makes him look like an idiot. He could have just flipped the switch and turned it off as a massive demonstration of power.

Instead he's making one mindboggingly stupid decision after another, showing the whole world how utterly incompetent he is.

The most logical explanation for me is the easiest one: if he's making stupid and incompetent decisions, maybe he's just stupid and incompetent.

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

You're saying the guy that has done nothing but look like a total fool for years could actually be a total fool? By the gods, I think you're onto something!

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think that's obvious to everyone. But, if you're claiming he's doing it on purpose..... That's just some next level batshit conspiracy theory.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is it? He's either a moron or he's doing it on purpose. There is simply no other explanation.

At this point it's just too many dumb decisions, if he had done absolutely nothing after taking over he'd be better off than he is now.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Delusional rich guy who's nowhere near as smart as most people thought he was is the most simple explanation. He's obviously got some kind of god complex and thinks he's right about everything.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean he has been called a real world Tony Stark for the last decade. Maybe that went straight to his mushy brain and he is still on that high. Back in the day he listened to experts, now whenever he's at SpaceX they employ "Elon handlers" who just nod to every suggestion and then try to get rid of him.

He got too much positive press and lost it.

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

God knows how a wannabe Steve Jobs who bought into all of his companies ever got compared to Tony Stark.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He looked like a real world Tony Stark when he was surrounded by teams of smart people doing all the hard parts and PR for him.

What we're seeing now is pure unfiltered Musk. He was probably always like this, but now he's off the leash.

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[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Occam's razor and all that. He is simply a low intelligence person with a fuckload of money.

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

The first one. He's stupid

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[–] jungle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Not sure I agree. I think it would be totally in character for him to want to destroy Twitter just because they forced him to buy it. He's a petty troll and can afford to lose that money just to show them.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How does destroying it hurt "them" he already bought it? They cashed out way over the value of the company. If I was any major shareholder of Twitter that he bought out Id be gleefully laughing at him running it into the ground now that I'm no longer invested.

[–] jungle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

True, I didn't think it through. I stand corrected.

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[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because he’s doing everything to make it fail and destroy the platform, isn’t it obvious?

It is tremendously obvious, I agree. At one point it felt kinda hyperbolic to say, but not for awhile now.

I'm not knowledgeable enough to be able to speculate what's in it for him, but it's 100% obvious that's what's being done.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He might call him self pro free speech, but he actually hates it (as long as it's not his own free speech). Getting rid of Twitter is a massive blow to free speech. One less platform where he and his companies can get outed and criticized on.

[–] severien@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Twitter was becoming another walled platform (not being able to read the content without being logged in) even before Musk's take-over.

I'm happy for any walled platform to fail. IMO they have no place on internet.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

It’s less nefarious than that. He wants to be a championed business leader. He’s just a fuck up who was forced to buy a platform that he never actually intended to buy (except for maybe a couple of days when he first suggested it). Sure, it will help his side when he runs it into the ground, but that’s not his intent despite being the cause.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Like others have said, bullshit. He'll drive it into the ground and pretend that was his plan the whole time, like he's some undercover genius three steps ahead of everyone, when really he's just constantly playing catch-up with his narcissistic outbursts.

[–] chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

People told me I was crazy when I said he bought it to shut it down. Look who he hangs out with, people with a fuckton of money who hate free speech. Very powerful people who control media empires and run oppressive regimes.

He might be stupid, but the people pulling his strings aren't.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

That's like saying "my car may fail after I poured sand into the gas tank and replaced the electrical with speaker wires"

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