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My PGE bill is a little over 50c per kilowatt hour. Its starting to become like a second mortgage or car payment for some. Wondering what other people are paying for their power.

https://www.pge.com/assets/pge/docs/account/rate-plans/residential-electric-rate-plan-pricing.pdf

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[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

15¢/kWh. Makes driving an EV really economical. I did a day trip last week and had to charge at a DC fast charge and it was 56¢/kWh. At that price it would've been cheaper to drive my wife's Traverse. For reference the break even for me at $3/gal is 40¢/kWh (3.5 mi/kWh). eMPG is a joke. The real measurement is miles/dollar.

[–] Nefara@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

EV driving really shines in local trips, which is the majority of most people's driving. My husband and I have solar panels and a plug in hybrid, so his commute to work every day is essentially free for us (aside from wear and tear). If you're regularly driving long hauls then fully EV doesn't seem to make sense yet, but for every day driving, the trade off of having cheaper daily trips with occasional higher expenses for long hauls probably still nets a lower cost per mile.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

When I first got my EV, the DC fast charge rates weren't that high. I was seeing an average around 35 cents/kWh. A near 50% jump in price now has me planning trips in advance not for just charging stops but a cost analysis in case it's cheaper with gas (fuck Illinois electricity rates). The plan is still to get my wife an EV when it's time to replace the Traverse. I hope that DC rates won't be so bad for long trips by then so I don't have to hear about it. She's still unconvinced despite our summer vacation being done with entirely level 2 chargers on the way down and at our destination, then 1 DC charge to get back home.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My usual commute to work is like eight miles. I've considered purchasing an old leaf just to use to drive to work and back. The fact that they only get 40-100 mi round trip is negligible to the fact that I would save a decent amount of money on gas.

The trade-off turned out to be that my insurance rates and the other maintenance would more than absorb the cost savings from any gas so unless I also got rid of my primary vehicle which I'm not likely to do it would be a bad move for me.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

2 car home makes having one foot in and the other out easy. I was convinced when doing the math and that battery cooling/heating tech made it to the mainstream. It's why I never considered a hybrid or the leaf.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I rent a car for uber. They recently changed it so all rentals must be electric. I don’t have a way to charge at home, which means I pay 60¢/kWh to charge the car. I get about 200 miles of range for about $20.

Those who charge at home, overnight, get subsidized electricity for charging an EV, so they pay 4.2¢/kWh, or about 7% of what I pay to charge the car.

source

It pisses me off that this decision, to force all rental uber drivers to use EVs, was probably made by someone who lives in a house and has no idea that people who rent cars to drive uber tend to live in shitty little apartments with no at-home charging.

Not only do I pay through the nose for energy, more than I would pay for gas, I lose 1-2 hours of income per day just twiddling my thumbs in random grocery store parking lots.

And that doesn’t count the time lost driving from station to station looking for an available charger.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Renting a car to drive for uber doesn't sound financially sustainable in the first place

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago