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[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de -5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Humans experimenting on weaker animals has peak fashist vibes.

"bUt iTs oNLy a SnAiL" yeah and before anything happens on humand they will experiment on mammals.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Hey guys... Is it fascist to want to learn more about the reality we find ourselves in?"

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There was a period during the Chinese Communist revolution that basically labeled a lot of modern science as capitalist propaganda.

There's a book series that starts with that event, and is the inciting event that caused a group of scientists to basically invite a hostile race of aliens to earth to wipe out and rebuild society.

I forget the name, it's by Cixin Liu

Edit: The Three Body Problem is the first book

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If anyone stumbles across this, the entire series is amazing and worth your time

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree. And if you want to listen to great break downs of the series look up Quinn's Ideas on YouTube.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

YES omg that dude is amazing

[–] Femcowboy@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Call me Hitler but it's only a snail. If this can erase my dad strangling me or watching someone shoot themself from my brain IDC how many invertebrates die for it.

[–] RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Femcowboy@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

I a sapienbrained humancel. You got me.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How many dogs and chimpanzees are you willing to murder for the human trial to fail in phase 2?

[–] Misconduct@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

How many you got?

[–] Femcowboy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Dogs? We have a limitless supply, go nuts scientists. Chimps eh let's say less than 30, the lower the amount of chimps that die the better but at the end of the day, traumatic experiences vastly reduce quality of life for people, so if chimps gotta die, they gotta die.

[–] neshura -2 points 1 year ago

This may be tough to hear but some poeple don't give a shit about animals.

Is that arrogant? Fuck yes. Is it hypocritical? From most people, yes. Is it wrong? Lol no, humanity rules over earth and I really don't see why we should (potentially) torture our own population in experiments rather than species that largely lack self awareness and often have problems with object permanence.

Animals are animals and unless one of them writes me an essay about how all of this is wrong in its own language I won't change my mind on that. The only species coming even remotely close to us in intellect and mind are dolphins and octopi, neither of which are commonly used for animal trials of anything except puzzles.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Would you prefer all medicines and other technologies skip trials and go straight to the counter?

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

last step in trials is poor people.