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[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These attributes are also associated with substantial differences in experience, epistemologies, and even ideologies

Nothing is stopping one from seeking these differences directly, and it's literally bigoted and prejudicial to say "I know this person is going to have a different perspective because their skin is this color/they are this sex". You're literally advocating for stereotyping people according to those immutable characteristics. Disgusting.

Ideological diversity while certainly beneficial, can also hamper collaboration.

I thought diversity was strength. Guess it's instead "diversity specifically of the types I define is strength, provided it's my unique definition of strength (read: intellectual homogeneity)".

I don’t know why you’re drawing this line between ideology, race, and gender. Shit is intersectional.

More thinly-veiled bigotry, essentially saying that race and gender determine ideology. Gross.

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

You're literally advocating for stereotyping people according to those immutable characteristics. Disgusting.

Nice try, but no. That's really not what I was saying. The conversation is about how environmental context (culture, history, positionality) influences experiences and how individuals with different experiences can contribute uniquely.

I thought diversity was strength. Guess it's instead "diversity specifically of the types I define is strength, provided it's my unique definition of strength (read: intellectual homogeneity)".

Diversity has its strengths and weaknesses depending on context. For example ethno nationalism can lead to powerful states of a kind, but as an ideology it is inherently oppressive and dehumanizing, so I'd argue it's ethically wrong. Being a particular race or gender is never ethically wrong, but ideologies certainly can be.

More thinly-veiled bigotry, essentially saying that race and gender determine ideology. Gross.

Again, deliberately misinterpreting the statement. Nobody is talking about race/sex being deterministic of ideology and your little trap conflating social groups and individual identity is transparent and silly.

You fail troll.