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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (13 children)

But why does excersize have to suck so much.

Like if I wanted my muscles to hurt I could just slap em with a belt or if I wanted to gasp for breath... I could also use a belt.

Like I have "slow-twitch" muscles which means I'm better running I guess, but then Jesus fuck that hurts my knees and feet, which I could probably use a belt to cause pain to as well.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago (1 children)

... Do you want to be slapped with a belt? We can certainly accommodate that request

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, but I do see how you might get that interpretation.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Well your comment certainly gave off that vibe

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When I get out of shape it takes a good 2-4 weeks of consistent exercise for things to transition from feeling like premature death to actually feeling good. If you’ve never made it to the feeling good part, I would imagine it’s rather challenging to motivate yourself through the “feels like premature death” phase.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I enjoy sore muscles, I know if I don't go the gym I will feel worse, I know if I go I will be sore but feel better, still it takes conscious effort to go, though I may have adhd and an issue with developing habits

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Muscle soreness mostly goes away after a while when doing strength exercise. I kind of miss it, to be honest - it's a clear signal that you've accomplished something.

As for running, it is indeed quite hard on everything. I generally prefer biking, which I find a lot more fun and less straining on the body.

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

As for running, it is indeed quite hard on everything. I generally prefer biking, which I find a lot more fun and less straining on the body.

Until you crash, and then it takes you forever to heal as you get older. Swimming is good, but if you've spent your whole life in the water like I have, you wind up with burnt out rotator cuffs, etc.

Basically, any repetitive exercise will destroy you over time. Best to mix it up as much as possible

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess you could go stationary if you want to eliminate the risk of crashing.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

These days you can make cool setups where you turn and the resistance changes based on the slopes you get on-screen. I should probably get something like this to add more cardio on my mostly-strength current routine. I have a real bike and love riding it but I'm too sensitive to the weather conditions and use it as an excuse not to go out, I've been successful in my home gym because it's there whether it rains, hails or snows, don't even need to put on my shoes lmao.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 23 points 1 month ago

Ever tried cycling? It's relatively easy on the knees and you can vary intensity and duration to your liking.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yeah I hate almost any and all forms of exercise. I picked up running back in March because people say exercise improves your mental health.

No it fucking doesn't. I'm still doing it every few days and it does not at all improve my mental health. Also running fucking sucks. People who enjoy it are psychopaths.

Figured I'd keep at it for now though. I don't run super far or fast. I run a bit over 3 miles every few days. It still sucks every time.

[–] LaVacaMariposa@mander.xyz 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Running sucks ass, but cycling is fun. You just need to find something you enjoy

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

Cycling and swimming as well sucks less than both. Significantly better for your joints and exercises pretty much all muscles. Downside is that not everyone has access to a pool regularly.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Seconded. Cycling is the only form of exercise I can motivate myself to do. Without cycling I'd probably be dead already.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Nah cycling still sucks. Like I said, most forms of exercise suck ass. Y'all are just crazy.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

3 miles is not that much. Less than a 5k. I didn’t really start to enjoy running until I got up over 10k (about 7 miles).

There’s a point you reach where instead of feeling like shit the whole time, you actually feel good and it seems like you can run forever. Then when you stop it’s because you’re tired, not because your body is screaming in pain.

Also are you panting / breathing from your mouth really hard in the middle of your run? That’s a sign that you’re not pacing yourself correctly. You should be able to run smoothly while breathing in through your nose and out through your mouth. Pacing yourself incorrectly pushes you into the anaerobic zone which is only good for sprinting, not running long distances.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Imagine telling someone you hate doing something and they just tell you you need to work harder at it or do more of it. It's a bit offensive, don't you think?

Yes, I already said I don't run that far or fast. No need to rub it in or brag at how much farther you can run. I do run a 5k each time, but "a bit over 3 miles" sounded less pretentious to say than "3.11 miles". It takes me 32-36 minutes depending on the day, route, weather, etc. It's slow.

I have no interest in running much farther of a distance. My time in the mornings before work is limited and I live in a very hot climate where I only get a very brief period after the sun rises before the heat is unbearable for running. In my area, people do run in the full sun when it's 99F, but I personally cannot do that. If I accidentally start a run too late in the morning, I end up regretting it because of the heat. No, I don't have any interest in running in the dark or running on a treadmill at a gym. Might eventually make my way up to 8k when it gets cooler out, but we'll see. Def not going to be running farther than that.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Ahhh okay. Well I’m sorry for offending you, I didn’t intend to. I had no idea you live in such a hot climate. Where I live there are heat waves that get about 86F-100F but most of the summer the daily high is around 77. Even then I ran before dawn because I preferred the much cooler temperatures (as low as 57F).

I don’t run anymore though. I had a bad ankle injury at work a few years ago. Since then I’ve gained a lot of weight. I really miss running. I hope one day I can get back to it but I’d need to lose the weight first plus it’s tough with the long winters here.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Thank you for your honesty:)

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Maybe swimming or cycling is more your kind of sport?

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nah, I hate them too. The only form of exercise I actually seem to enjoy is dancing actually. But unfortunately as an adult, I have a harder time with it. I found a dance studio last year that catered to adult students. But the drive after work was just so far (30+ minutes) and I was so wiped from work that I just found it not a great experience (despite enjoying the workout itself) so I stopped. If there was a dance studio down the street from me that did adult classes, I'd be on board.

I continue running because it's so easy to fit it in before work and easier to measure my metrics as opposed to some of these other forms of exercise. The park is a 5 min drive from me.

It's like...yeah I could bike before work instead, but I don't have a way to transport my bike to the local park, so it wouldn't be as efficient of a bike ride waiting to cross busy intersections...not to mention significantly more dangerous with how fast the traffic goes (it's a 45mph road, but cars like to go above 60mph and somehow don't get pulled over by the police...).

I was biking a bit last year, but running just works out better for my particular scenario.

I do have access to a swimming pool, but I don't have the technique and just find it so monitonous. At least with running in the park, I get to look at the trees and birds and other runners.

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Simple, because you never do it. All forms of cardio are unpleasant when you are completely out of shape. It gets better rather quickly if you keep at it and once you have some endurance it is actually fun.

[–] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

Athletic people tend to say that, but I really doubt it's true for everyone. I have never enjoyed sport - being out of shape it sucked more, but while maintaining a sensible training regime I really dislike it as well. For me it's about as enjoyable as doing housework. I do that too, but not for fun.

The only thing that has helped me is to accept that evolution is a bitch and biology is unfair; I will probably never enjoy working out, but I can do it anyway and find a form of exercise that is kinda okay and allows me to listen to good music while I do it.

For some people, "it will be fun one day" just sets a really unrealistic expectation.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

This is all true however it is also true a fitness journey never ends, as you get better you need to keep pushing yourself more to maintain the health benefits, if you're just relying on your progress to cruise you do not get the same calorie burning and other benefits after a while.

[–] Jambalaya@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago

Because it does suck, but it's necessary since we structured our society so that we sit around 90% of the time rather than naturally exercising by walking around all day.

[–] gens@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

Go walk. Or if you want to burn a lot of energy, swim.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Because you're doing something you don't like doing? My main exercise these days is hiking but I used to go to the gym 2h a day 5 years ago and 10 years ago it was rock climbing... You wouldn't see me play hockey or soccer though.

Play a sport you enjoy or start rock climbing. It can be fun.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

If your knees hurt, replace the insoles in your exercise shoes with some good ones. These are good, and not expensive:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IELL7IU

It's a secret that most athletes replace their insoles. Also, skinny people who run a little might not do it because they don't weigh enough to hurt their knees.

Shhh, don't tell anyone.

[–] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Try climbing. I hated every sport I tried but climbing fixed it for me. It is strenght, endurance and stamina training all in one and you do it together with someone. It is also mentally challenging as you have to solve the routes you climb.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But why does excersize have to suck so much.

because exercise is the wrong way to do it IMO.

It's the clinical version of, just being fit instead.

go running, do cardio, ride a bike, do some heavy labor, you'll be equally as fit, with less muscle mass, and better equipped to do most things throughout life, plus you aren't doing test or some shit, because you don't care about the looks.

Also, as far as running goes, it really sucks when you're out of shape, but if you keep doing it, eventually you'll get in shape, and while it's still tiring and makes you sweaty, and generally hard on your body, you will eventually start to run without feeling like utter shit. (also you should do it daily, just don't overdo it on a daily basis and you'll be fine) i'm not subscribed to the idea of work hard, recover, and then do it all over again, i'm more a fan of constant

If you're essentially sedentary you should probably start with walking first, to build up some physical endurance in your legs. That's one of the nice things about running, you can do it for whatever, however you want, whenever you want. You can't run for 3 miles straight? Guess what, you don't have to. You can just walk half of it if you want.

granted i'm a bit of a masochist and enjoy uncomfortable shit like this, i think it's something you have to learn to enjoy. You just start to tune everything out and focus only on the running, it's a nice experience. Personally, once i got past being physically fucking tired, i started to be able to focus on breathing and movement, and once you have a good stride, it's generally very pleasant. Cycling is also good cardio, but it's a lot easier on the body, you can take it pretty casually as well.

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Says exercise is the wrong way to be healthy.

Recommends exercise instead.

i meant gym workouts lol

fuck that shit, it's too clinical for me. I'll stick to cardio and labor.

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When I first started running, I jogged, which was actually barely more than my walking speed, for 10m, than walked 10m. Eventually you start jogging longer and walking less. If you find a good distance for you, for me it was 5k, I just started trying to go faster. Speed up for 20m, back to jogging, speed up, etc, etc until you can sustain that new speed throughout the run. Went from dying after 50m to running 5k in sub 20 min and 10k in sub 50 in like 8 months and losing 20 kg in the process.

I always hated the first 10 to 15 minutes of my runs, but once I got passed that I got into a flow state of sorts and it was meditative.

yeah this is a great TL;DR of half of my comment lmao.