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[–] Jonna@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Please show me where I made any accusations to you. I think you doth protest too much.

Being color blind (or which ever) won't fight racism. If we don't acknowledge the difference we end up ignoring the problem. And yes, who they are matters because their experience isn't something you or I could provide. It isn't necessarily a fault of ours that we can never know thier experience; we just aren't treated like they are.

Yes, fuck the rich. But the working class that must fight the rich is a diverse working class.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I never said you made an accusation. I stated multiple times it was more of an open letter, and not personally directed at you.

I also said that dealing with the bias issue is still important. Being aware of existing discrimination and bad actors is important, especially in certain communities. Being hyper colour focused definitely will not fight racism either, and treating every single social environment as identical is absurd. I've seen no evidence that allowing or encouraging this specific behavior has any general benefits in addressing societal biases and issues. I've given direct examples of how this rhetoric can harm innocent people and encourage a reciprocal negativity and bigotry.

This world is large, and defining people's entire reality by such an absurd metric as their skin colour is not ethical. It might seem justifiable to you in your personal community. You might be underestimating the diversity of communities and experiences. Every bigot out there would also feel their prejudiced focus is justifiable, regardless of what innocent people are hurt by it. I don't understand how people could believe it should be universally applicable and excusable. You could work to fix the injustices of society without being blatantly racist and inflammatory in your methods. Again, I gave a personal example of the harm of such rhetoric that should be universally indefensible. For the argument on gender, I've been told directly by a boss that I wouldn't have been hired if they'd been in charge when I started, because they don't hire men. Is that justifiable? Is it a non issue that this behavior is encouraged as "punching up"? I've seen my and others' experiences denied and dismissed purely due to the body they were born into.

Why is such a hateful rhetoric globally applicable when a much more obvious and universal method for judging privilege is class and wealth? Why is it seen as more important when deciding how to treat or act towards a person?

I wish we could live in a world without race, because humanity has proven itself so stupid that it can't see beyond things like skin colour, and they will always find justification for their personal brand of hateful and assumptive actions and beliefs. In every and any group of people, because funny enough we are all human beings, and human beings are apparently fucking awful.