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It's not a chicken burger or a veggie burger, etc. It's a chicken hamburger or a vegetable hamburger.
Show me the city Chickenburg on a map and I will call it a chicken burger.
I'll bet you're not a chocoholic either; you don't fly a quadcopter; you've never entered a hackathon or danceathon; never complained about stagflation, tipflation, greedflation, or bridezillas; and you don't own a Goldendoodle.
(These, and "chicken burger", are all examples of linguistic rebracketing.)
The word burger has been separated from its origins in Hamburg. In modern use, a hamburger is a beef patty, and a burger is any meat patty. Deal wit it
The real question is...what should we call a burger made from ground ham?
While traveling in Spain many years ago...and completely desperate for a good old fashioned American cheeseburger, I spotted a street vendor selling 'hamburgers'...and in my haste and desperation, ordered two. You cannot possibly know the misery that came over me as I realized half-way into my first bite that it was ground ham.
A ham hamburger.
What about a cheeseburger? Or just a burger?
Why does a hamburger with cheese become a cheeseburger? When I put pickles on a hamburger it doesn't become a pickle burger. None of this makes sense.
What is just a burger?
It's a portmanteau. My guess is this portmanteau came first, and then “hamburger” was shortened to “burger”.
No idea if my guess is correct or not, though.