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They've been pulling this shit since the early days. Similar tricks were employed in the 486 days to swap out chips, and again in the Celeron days. I think they switched to the slot style intentionally to keep selling chips to a point lol
me when capitalism
thats why we are in dire need of open source hardware.
We have open source designs (RISCV also have GPU designs) but we don't have manufacture power open sourced yet
Are there any projects to develop that capability that you know of?
No, there isn't yet, there's the most i could find, but it's not machines
i dream of a world where the process will cheapen out enough like pcb design, where you can just submit the design you want and they will fab it out for you.
with more players coming into the game because of sanctions, i hope we are now on the path.
Yes, i hope so too, as for now, semiconductor lithography at home is impossible due how big and complex these machines are, so i have same opinion as you are
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/DOC_0000498114.pdf
especially for new products.
If you're only response to criticism of capitalism is ((communism)), you may just be a cog in the corporate propaganda machine.
I mean they went with a literal cia link.
Thanks for the link to the unbiased study by... the CIA? Huh. Yeah I trust them.
The paper was from 1985. Was the CIA correct?
Marginally. The paper analyzes the capabilities as they existed in the 1980s, but doesn't draw strong conclusions as to why that may be. It does demonstrate how reliance on central planning results in inadequaciea when said central planning is not operating well, though.
The paper doesn't really mention it but the central planning of the USSR was actively reeling from Brezhnev dying, Andropov dying, and Chernenko either dying or about to die at the time the CIA thing was written. So yeah, correct is an accurate if imprecise way to put it.
Yeah it’s more a criticism of the ussr in the 80s. Central planning with more tech focus and more democracy would likely not face that specific issue.
But also there’s room for shit like kanban communism which definitely wouldn’t have these problems
IIRC, the slot CPU thing was because they wanted to get the cache closer to the processor, but hadn't integrated it on-die yet. AMD did the same thing with the original Athlon.
On a related note, Intel's anticompetitive and anti- consumer tactics are why I've been buying AMD since the K6-2.
They had integrated the L2 on-die before that already with the Pentium Pro on Socket 8. IIRC the problem was the yields were exceptionally low on those Pentium Pros and it was specifically the cache failing. So every chip that had bad cache they had to discard or bin it as a lower spec part. The slot and SECC form factor allowed them to use separate silicon on a larger node by having the cache still be on-package (the SECC board) instead of on-die.
AMD followed suit for the memory bandwidth part from the K62 architecture. Intel had no reason to do so.
It's been at least since the "big iron" days.
Technician comes out to upgrade your mainframe and it consists of installing a jumper to enable the extra features. For only a few million dollars.