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[–] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 93 points 7 months ago (2 children)

High interest rate,

Competition starts to offer decent electric car

People who can afford a fancy car already got one

Musk behaves like a fascists

Not a surprise

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also antagonizing the local populace by making backroom doors to bypass restrictions for their factory in germany.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 54 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Circumventing the Swedish labour model by refusing to talk to unions, stealing money from workers that wish to engage with strikes, and bringing in foreign labour force to circumvent union blockades.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, stuff like this doesn't seem to influence buyers' decision making.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It absolutely does in Sweden where it's become much harder and more expensive to buy a Tesla, and there's a possibility you won't be able to get a valid license plate due to sympathy strikes.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, of course a product that is less available, more expensive and has potentially more hurdles to obtain will be bought less, but that's not what I meant and these things are specific to sweden and don't necessarily apply to the rest of Europe.

Tesla being a company with shitty morals and being owned by an asshole is nothing that influences buyers' decisions enough large. Look at other brands that build their cars with forced labor in china. Are people buying fewer of those cars?

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Plenty of the Chinese EV brands strike a better balance between affordability and reliability than Tesla, so honestly you'd be dumb to buy the latter.

Look at other brands that build their cars with forced labor in china. Are people buying fewer of those cars?

Well no, but we also don't visibly see the suffering that goes into the making of products. People are still buying chocolate, bananas, and fast fashion. Besides it's not like Tesla cars are made without suffering, so it's all the same shit, really.

[–] neshura 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

its somewhat does in the situation where the alternatives are close enough. Which is now somewhat the case given that the established manufacturers have started pulling their heads out of their asses on the EV front.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Established manufacturers are pivoting again to plug-in hybrids.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Is this a U.S. thing? I assure you that established manufacturers have plenty of EVs available here.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago

I like your optimism. But I've seen too many people still buying products from questionable manufacturers in full knowledge of the issues and with alternatives available.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Given how high fascist parties like AfD, RN and the Brothers Of Italy are riding in the polls, you’d expect some of the glow to rub off on Tesla and boost their sales, but Musk doesn’t even have the soft skills to pull that off.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 21 points 7 months ago

The real fascists don't want to drive electric, and their voters usually can't afford them.

[–] DV8@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

The people that agree with Musk, think climate change is fake and that if it were real electric cars would polute more than ice cars.