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[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

[serious] why are there so many 'moderate' biden stans on this site (not you, but generally)? i thought lemmy was the sort of leftist reddit alternative

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because it's a misrepresentation of people defending Biden and leftist in general.

Just because someone defends Biden doesn't mean they support him. There's a lot of hyperbolic invective being directed at him. And he definitely has himself to blame for some of it. Expediting CONGRESS'S shipment of arms to Israel. And trying to stay as neutral and diplomatic as possible in the face of the horrors Israel is unleashing.

It seems suspicious how narrow the focus is on him however. With literally no one pestering their Congress critters who could actually do something about all of this. Sure we should pressure Biden to lead better. But if people actually wanted to get things done and not just virtue signal, they'd be yelling at Congress more.

And finally leftist != accelerationist. Some, like ML know their ideology isn't an actual improvement over capitalism. That the only way they could convince people to switch to their ideology is to destroy and degrade things much like capitalists do to other countries. But plenty of us lefties think both of them are wrong and pragmatically try to work to make things better.

[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Biden is the face of the Democrats. He is the president of the country and the supposedly strongest leader in the world.

Of course the focus is on him. In the same way when you talk about the French government the focus is on Macron, or talking about Ukraine it is Zelensky, talking about Germany it is Scholz and talking about China it is Xi.

All of these have different levels of formal power, all of them have different political systems, but all of them are expected to lead, to organize their political power and to take responsibility for the work of their administrations.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I can't stand biden or the dems, and I would rather have lobster's chew on my balls than vote repub. But at the end of the day, trump would hand the keys to gaza and the west bank over to Israel and gladly sweep the blood under the welcome mat.... he'd do the exact same with Ukraine and russia...so while I can't stand the blue team, we're going to get the world on fire if trump and repubs are elected. Anyone who thinks that trump is worth the gamble is full on delusional.

[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Anyone who thinks that trump is worth the gamble is full on delusional.

these Anyone are primarily the Biden administration, the DNC and the Israel supporters in the party. They'd rather want Trump to take over the country, than stand up to Israel and uphold international and US law.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Anyone who thinks that trump is worth the gamble is full on delusional.

Exactly.

So please try to help me convince the DNC that Biden isnt popular enough to feel safe in the election.

Especially when he won't stop funding a genocide.

Biden needs to stop fucking around and listen to his voters so he doesn't pull a Hillary.

He can't just do whatever the fuck he wants and tell voters they have to actively vote for him or trump wins

It's literally the opposite of how to run a campaign.

The fucking convention hasn't even happened yet, but we've been told for like 5 months it's too late anyways