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Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don't come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don't really get upset by it IRL

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[–] andyburke@fedia.io -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Can you explain what's wrong with this argument? As a relatively disinterested observer it seems reasonable to me.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Being Vegan is a choice for yourself so it's a fallacy to argue that others are not Vegan, and saying it doesn't help to try to make a difference unless everybody does it is also a fallacy.
So the argument is based on no less than 2 obvious fallacies. This should be pretty obvious, so question is if you are just a troll?

[–] andyburke@fedia.io -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I'll say that this reaction does nothing to make me think you are approaching this with any objectivity.

The argument, to me, seems to be that it's impossible in the modern world as things stand to actually totally avoid animal products. That would seem like an issue that Veganism should be concerned with.

I see your point, I think, about it being an individual choice. But though I have heard of things like vegan shoes, I can see how saying those are vegan when you may not control all the inputs seems problematic.

Regardless, your response was so unpleasant that I don't think I'm much interested in continuing.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah no reason to go to the moon if we can't visit other planets yet. That's the kind of logic you are arguing.
The vegan argument is to not contribute to animal suffering, you can't control what other people do.
And avoiding suffering doesn't help because there will still be suffering is about as stupid as it gets.

[–] Inui@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Veganism has never been about avoiding all animal products 100%. Only as far as possible.

To put it another way, would you feel responsible if the person who installed your solar panels drove an oversized truck in their personal life?

[–] Inui@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Because its not within any one vegans control whether a random factory worker has chicken for lunch. If there were businesses that only hired vegans and sold vegan products (there are, but very few), then vegans would obviously be buying things from there instead. If someone who isn't vegan themselves uses this impossible purity test as an excuse not to make changes themselves, then they weren't genuine about making any attempt in the first place.