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In the desktop world, we have the option to use the command line: a uniform interface for a multitude of apps that would otherwise be very different when implemented as GUIs.

Using the same interface, I can move or edit files, cross out tasks on my to-do list, retrieve my password for my email account (using Bitwarden or pass), etc. All in the command line. The GUI for each of those are wildly different.

The other benefit is it is very easy to create a new command line app, as opposed to a GUI.

Is anything like this possible for the smartphone world (even if it doesn't or will never exist)? What would it look like?

Since smartphone typing is much slower, we can't simply reuse the command line. We'd need something different. An interface that can still support a various spectrum of different operations, yet ergonomic for a smartphone. What are your thoughts?

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[–] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Great examples are already in the thread, but generally speaking the answer should be "no". Smart phones are just slow at typing. In the case of a smart phone, hitting a button is far faster than typing a command. Not to mention our devices aren't really being used for file management, tooling, complex work, etc. So it doesn't even make sense to have a command line unless you're a huge unix fan or if you are doing something quite niche. And in that case, I recommend just connecting via adb.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

While I agree with you, I do find myself doing a lot of file management via my phone, as much of a PITA as it is.

I do perhaps 1/4 of my file management there. PC is just far easier.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol -2 points 2 months ago

Despite the smartphone touch interface being worse for these tasks, the convenience of having a phone always with you and within a couple seconds of reach is a big benefit. It would be really nice if the interface could be made easier

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It may not have to be typing-centric. Maybe the answer is in interfaces that leverage gestures better and in a uniform way, or mixing it with a clever use of buttons.

our devices aren't really being used for file management, tooling, complex work

Only because the experience of doing so is not pleasant like it is on desktop. People would use it for that otherwise.

doesn't even make sense to have a command line

I don't want to have a command line, and I emphasized that in my post. Only something that is similar in its ergonomic enhancement.

[–] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I see. Well without a command line, I wouldn't call it a terminal. I think you just want tooling to be available on an Android? It would probably look like a button or series of buttons on an app. Maybe you could connect the dots between them to insinuate a pipe? E.g., you have a "mv" button and a "file" button. When you drag from mv -> file you could maybe kick off a process that moves the file. Maybe it would prompt you for other arguments like destination? I suppose this theoretical app could allow people to install additional tooling and make their own custom commands.

But I just feel like a button UI for these kinds of things will always be awkward. If you don't have a keyboard/terminal interface, it's hard to implement anything that would even behave like terminals in terms of functionality.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth -2 points 2 months ago

You and op need to start a support group for addicts