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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 58 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Bethesda has done a great deal to discourage all modding efforts for the last couple years and they‘ll continue to do so until people stop buying their broken piece of code for an excuse of software. Which might happen sooner than later because the state of their games was always highly dependent on modders to fix everything constantly and there are fewer of them every day because of Bethesda’s incredible streak of ignorant decisions.

[–] stormesp@lemm.ee 64 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Maybe read the article. I know it's too much to ask, but before saying stupid things, sometimes, it might be better to read the article.

“Before you grab the pitchforks to go after Bethesda or tell us that we’re idiots and you know how to stop the update – remember, that’s you know how to do it, not the collective. This is a collective project; we want everyone to have the past four years of work to come out and be the best mod possible for all of our followers. We want to incorporate this special mod that we’ve created for everyone.”

“The fact that Bethesda is keeping what is an old game updated is honestly a great thing – many members of the team are very excited to see this,” he notes. “On the technical front, being able to play Fallout London with the new potential engine improvements and the performance upgrades is fantastic. It’s going to mean that we can push the engine even harder than we’ve already pushed it. This is all going to be a boon.”

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Thank you for posting this. I was thinking that in a day when so many companies are pulling digital products, not pushing updates, and blaming consumers, that it was pretty damn cool of Bethesda to be updating anything outside a cash shop. Fallout 4 is (sorry everyone haha), 9 years old. Literally no one would bat an eye if they never touched the game again. Yeah, they have their own issues, though this is 100% a W and should be applauded.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Skyrim is one of the best selling games in history. A huge chunk of those sales took place on consoles, where mod availability is limited. This whole concept of modders being the only thing making Bethesda's games successful is quite exaggerated, IMO.

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Mods are definitely the one thing giving their games longevity, nobody would be still playing Skyrim or Fallout 4 nowadays if it wasn't for the plethora of mods. In fact I feel kind of sorry for people playing on console, because the vanilla experience is just mediocre as fuck.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I won't deny that mods extend their longevity. I'm just saying that there are plenty of gamers who are content with the vanilla games. Hell, Skyrim was an immediate success at launch, long before much of its mods came into existence. Same with Fallout 3 and 4. I'd argue the open world sandbox-esque design of the games are the main thing that give them longevity for the majority of players, similar to how tons of people still casually play any of the GTA games (and not just their online mode). Hell, most of the time when I see random social media posts for FO4, it's the vanilla game with people just showing off their crazy settlement builds.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

terrible. just terrible. im still playing skyrim and fo4 without mods. 99% of my playthroughs are vanilla. i have single handedly proved your comment wrong 🍷🧐

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I legitimately feel sorry for you.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

no, i legitimately feel sorry for you. your comments read like a madman raging at the world. oh how they dare have fun and i dont? oh how dare the world not be just like me? woe is me. woe is me.

[–] thudge_mcgerk@kbin.social 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A huge chunk of those sales took place on consoles

Well it has been released on every major console since the 360/PS3 era. So a major chunk is console sales.

[–] Bipta@kbin.social -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Mods might not make them successful, but they do make the games actually playable and enjoyable, especially as each new release has more never-to-be-fixed bugs than the last.

I've got a friend planning to buy Fallout 3 for PC, but no way they'd buy that for console after all this time. The experience just can't hold up.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I wonder why are you being downvoted considering the first mods in any list are performance and bug fixes lol