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DENVER — An engine cover on a Boeing 737 operated by Southwest Airlines ripped open just after taking off from Denver International Airport Sunday morning.

The Houston-bound Southwest flight took off from DIA around 7:45 a.m., and returned to the airport 30 minutes later, landing safely. No injuries were reported.

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[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You do know that this has nothing to do with it being a Boeing aircraft, right? The flight was a 737-800 which is from the NG series of 737s. The NG series has one of the lowest accidents per departure of any aircraft ever made and they probably have the most departure of any aircraft series.

This was 100% on Southwest. This aircraft was built in 2015 and has been flying for a decade. All that happened was a Southwest mechanic didn't latch the engine cowling properly after an at gate service. This is a problem and should not happen, but has nothing to do with Boeing.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's the Ohio train derailment all over again. Accident happens, people pay more attention to similar accidents, they are shared more on social media (especially if they confirm what people now this is true), people not smart enough to understand that hearing about it more does not mean it's happening more, and so every accident confirms their belief no matter what.

It's a vicious feedback loop.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah a couple of these recently return to gate/derversions with non max Boeing's would have barely made the local news but the word Boeing makes headlines and it doesn't matter that in the article

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Even if you discount the airlines responsibility in this, Boeing don't make the engines., CFM International do.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Boeing do make the choice in who does their engines. And they do make the choice on the specs. Just as any vehicle manufacturer may use different parts from other manufacturers, they do make a choice with doing business and whether or not they are thorough on their specs.they do put their name on the assembled package as a collection of all their choices.

So no, while they didn’t make the engine themselves, they employed someone to do it to a spec they themselves determined was enough.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well first of not sure how that is relevant but just so you know the CFM 56 that is used in the 737NGs is also the engine used in the A320 CEO which is the airbus narrow body and is the direct competitor 737NG family

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Wrong argument.

I’m not arguing class. They do cater to specs for aircraft.

Irrespective of the engine applications, both aircraft and engine manufacturers work closely during the early design and concept phase to align their requirements.

If they do not require a spec, that’s on them. If they do, that’s also on them. It’s on the company who make the ultimate choice to strap it on and paint their name on the final decision.

It’s like that with all products. You will be held responsible regardless of you outsource any assembly and it’s still on your line.

That’s business 101.

For example : that is precisely the engine being fuel efficient and angling how it sits or he wing to operate the MCAS system. The infamous system that put Boeing on their back leg. that system to compensate for an engine, the courts didn’t blame the engine in the end. The families of the lost ones do not blame the engine. It’s still the fault of Boeing. This was tried and done already. didn’t work.

And even humouring this argument: families of the lost will not come after RR, PW or GM. That’s not a fight they can do and you know that. Only the airplane manufacturer can. So They will go after Boeing for strapping it on. And You know that. So go stick that red herring in your pipe and smoke it yourself if you’re that thirsty. Meanwhile I’m stepping aside on your misnomer argument.

It’s on Boeing. They made the comment about cost of human life. You’re not going to change my mind in this vein.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sorry what??? The 737NG and A320 CEO use the same CFM 56 engine. If it was an issue with CFM and the engines it made then Airbus would be as likely to have an issue as Boeing.

But it isn't at all. If this was a problem with Boeing then we would have been seeing issues with this for 20 years. This is 100% Southwest's fault and has nothing to do with Boeing or CFM. Would you blame Ford if the mechanic didn't tighten your wheel lug nuts?

You want to say the MAX planes are shit I am right with you, but this plane was made before the MAX planes even came out and the engineering was done in 1990.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Again: wrong argument on class. I already explained why. Not having this with you.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I am not arguing about the "class" plane. I am saying it was Southwest's fault because they didn't properly latch the cowling so it blew open. As I said before would you blame the manufacturer of your car if the local tire shop didn't tighten your tire lug nuts?

Don't get snippy with me if you can't actually respond to the points I bring up.