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It’s sad really. This post was the final straw for me. I’ll be unsubscribing. I saw the same thing happen dankmemes. Post after post of politically charged, right leaning nonsense. My tinfoil hat says it’s intentional to kill Lemmy, and honestly it’s working.
......right leaning?
Yes, this post when interpreted as ironic, is making fun of socialism and CRT. Regardless it is leveraging oft used conservative boogeymen buzzwords for a joke. It dilutes the original use of the words, and whether or not intended, degrades their meaning. It’s a very common tactic of fascism and hard right actors. It’s exactly what Trump did when assuming the ‘fake news’ moniker and repurposing it to attack media. This entire site has been circling the drain for some time, and the downvotes just prove none of you value actual discussion.
The point of the post couldn't have gone any further over your head if it had wings
If you read what I’m saying, the intent matters not. It’s the use sarcastically or not in a joking way that plays right into right leaning agenda. But please keep attacking me.
The fact that it uses sarcasm and mentions CRT doesn't automatically mean it's right leaning. Left leaning people could find this meme funny.
Again, it’s their use in a joke that delivers the whole discussion around CRT into the shitter, enabling right wing agenda. They’re not out to win the argument, they’re out to muddy the waters.
So by that logic, we shouldn't make any political jokes anymore? This is getting awfully close to censorship.
I didn’t block you from making the joke. That’s censorship. I merely pointed out the problem in doing so and that I’m done with it. Take pepe, see how the right ran with that to the point it represents racism.
I know, and that's why I didn't say it was actually censorship. Just really close.
Not close at all, but ok.
To be honest it sounds like you don't want people to mock conservatives, and that's a tough ask when they make it so easy.
Sort of. I’m saying mocking only lowers the overall dialogue into the shitter, which doesn’t serve the purpose you think. It may make you feel morally superior, but does nothing to fix the issue, and arguably further entrenches the two sides.
Cathode Ray Tube?
Critical race theory, assuming you’re not a clown.
What are you on and where can I get some
The downvotes only validate I’m right that this site is in the shitter. You just assume because the message is liberal, it doesn’t play into right leaning agendas.
I think you're alienating your allies here. This is clearly intended to be left leaning, and you're lumping OP with Trump and facists.
No. I’m saying OP is playing right into their hands, liberal or whatever they are.
Okay, so, I am reading what you're saying, and I don't really know how one could make a joke that isn't, by your understanding, part of the conservative agenda.
And if that's what you think, I am curious why you're looking at memes at all.
There’s a universe of thing’s worth joking about, but this post just serves political agendas, mostly right wing ones, and isn’t funny. CRT has become such a punching bag it’s lost all meaning. I’ve had the experience of my (very different) field of study becoming a political football, and the end result was the field suffering for years afterwards. Those setbacks are due to the right wing of political discourse choosing to meme the subject and make it political. The very act of targeting it was the main transgression, but subsequent meming on both sides only dragged things down further.
So, telling people to not try and be funny, even those you agree with, is definitely alienating your allies. I hear what you're saying, but I have also seen parents losing their ever loving shit at PTA meetings... And to say that everyone must treat those ignorant displays with quiet respect, because CRT was mentioned... Seems a bit beyond the pale.
So I spoke up to try and explain to this group the pitfall of continuing the jokes on this particular subject. Likewise everyone should speak up at PTA meetings despite the flack. Not certain my work is being appreciated by the local memelords here.
Well, some advice you didn't ask for, and that I don't always follow: it's easier to start a conversation where it is, and direct people towards the productive conversation you want to have, than to start off by calling someone a villain for something they already said. You didn't make your point easy to appreciate.
I will say you've given me some food for thought, though.
Fair, and I certainly got people’s attention.
Lemmy was already dying, just look at plots of active users since the Reddit API flap. It’s going down not up. The sooner it does, the sooner a stronger decentralized platform, or newer version of Lemmy, can take it’s place. It’s current iteration is a rickety Reddit clone that suffers from rolling defederation.