this post was submitted on 25 Mar 2024
206 points (78.1% liked)

Android

27856 readers
52 users here now

DROID DOES

Welcome to the droidymcdroidface-iest, Lemmyest (Lemmiest), test, bestest, phoniest, pluckiest, snarkiest, and spiciest Android community on Lemmy (Do not respond)! Here you can participate in amazing discussions and events relating to all things Android.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules


1. All posts must be relevant to Android devices/operating system.


2. Posts cannot be illegal or NSFW material.


3. No spam, self promotion, or upvote farming. Sources engaging in these behavior will be added to the Blacklist.


4. Non-whitelisted bots will be banned.


5. Engage respectfully: Harassment, flamebaiting, bad faith engagement, or agenda posting will result in your posts being removed. Excessive violations will result in temporary or permanent ban, depending on severity.


6. Memes are not allowed to be posts, but are allowed in the comments.


7. Posts from clickbait sources are heavily discouraged. Please de-clickbait titles if it needs to be submitted.


8. Submission statements of any length composed of your own thoughts inside the post text field are mandatory for any microblog posts, and are optional but recommended for article/image/video posts.


Community Resources:


We are Android girls*,

In our Lemmy.world.

The back is plastic,

It's fantastic.

*Well, not just girls: people of all gender identities are welcomed here.


Our Partner Communities:

!android@lemmy.ml


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

This toggle is annoying because what was once 1 press to turn on BT is now 2. It gets me every day.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] macattack@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I don't want to go conspiracy theory, but in my opinion it feels like a dark pattern to increase the time people have Bluetooth on. I believe they did the same thing with success for Wi-Fi. If I recall correctly, even when you are not connected to a device, Google can estimate your location based on what Wi-Fi networks you are in proximity to and something to varying degrees might work for Bluetooth as well which is why they also roll the feature over to the Bluetooth toggle

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is definitely it. This article is from 2019, so it has probably evolved a lot since then.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/14/opinion/bluetooth-wireless-tracking-privacy.html

In addition to the profits from earphones, this is probably another reason for the removal of the headphone jack.

[–] lorkano@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I could never go back to wired earphones though, they were way too annoying

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They already do that regardless of the state of those toggles. You have to turn that off in a different spot.

The main Bluetooth and Wi-Fi toggles otherwise just stop your device from actively associating/pairing with other devices. They do not control the radios.

[–] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Thank you for this! I just turned them off. Such bullshit.

[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Wut. Why would they bother when your cellular connection is constantly pinging all towers to literally triangulate your location? Why do something much more complicated to get data they already have?

The real answer is they are a multi billion dollar company with telemetry. Obviously, the vast majority of people never turn off WiFi or Bluetooth. Most people want quick access to connect to a WiFi network or Bluetooth device, not to toggle either off.

[–] macattack@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I believe that Wi-Fi points are more accurate than towers especially when they're sharing the information with indoor retailers

[–] Vega@feddit.it 4 points 7 months ago

Bluetooth give a lot more information about your surrounding (what device your phone detect or connect, for how much time, distance from objects, etc.), not only from your phone alone, but from other people phones who have bluetooth on and e.g. never disable any tracking from google services too. And the Mac address for bluetooth never change, so any device (and tracking company) will know you is forever you. Bluetooth is a privacy nightmare, and this is totally a dark pattern. People not knowing what they're doing is of course a thing, but it seems just a usual bad practice by google, who like to manipulate especially not tech-savvy people