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“We believe the prerequisite for meaningful diplomacy and real peace is a stronger Ukraine, capable of deterring and defending against any future aggression,” Blinken said in a speech in Finland, which recently became NATO’s newest member and shares a long border with Russia.

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[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The west is not helping Ukraine

so you say, but in every demonstrable way, we are, including by every claim made by their government and the plurality of their people. and it's pretty hilarious that you claim to be some authority to make claims to the contrary. The only ones who would claim otherwise are Russia and their supporters, of which you are clearly one.

so, why should anyone take your positions seriously?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The west is helping exactly the same way the west helped Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and countless other countries that were destroyed as a result of western interventions. One has to have a brain as smooth as a bowling ball to think that west gets involved in these conflicts due to some altruistic purposes.

Maybe spend a bit of time educating yourself instead of making a clown of yourself in public. It's frankly embarrassing.

[–] FlowVoid@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who said anything about altruism? All sides are motivated by self interest. Ukrainians want to kill Russian soldiers on their soil, and the US wants other people to kill Russian soldiers on foreign soil.

They cooperate because their interests align, even if Ukrainians have a more justified motivation.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Ah, so you're finally admitting that what we're seeing is a proxy war between the regime US installed in Ukraine after a coup in 2014 and Russia. We're finally getting somewhere.