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[–] Skedule@lemmy.ml 32 points 4 months ago (3 children)

All the comments about the nuclear reactor disasters remind me of a Vsauce video called Risk. . Michael talks about a hypothetical world where "one cigarette pack out of every eighteen thousand seven hundred and fifty contains a single cigarette laced with dynamite that, when lit, violently explodes, blowing the user's head off. People would be loudly and messily losing their heads every day all over the world but in that imaginary universe the same number of people would die every day because of smoking that already do". Nuclear disasters are messy, but affect less people than coal plants operating normally.

[–] smegforbrains@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It's not a question of either using coal or nuclear power in Germany. The idea is to phase out coal power production by 2038 and replaced them by building 40 green hydrogen plants in order to be climate neutral by 2045 with renewables, which already are 52% of the German mix and the before mentioned green hydrogen plants.

Here's a Google translation of a source about the energy transition in Germany:

https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Energiewende?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

green hydrogen plants

lmao that is never going to happen. that technology doesn't even exist on a efficient scale yet. It's all polluting gray hydrogen. are all Germans this gullible? at least build something that actually works like solar. Green hydrogen is a fucking scam and a handout to fossil fuel industry to do "research"

[–] smegforbrains@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Germany is already at 52% renewables. So there's a lot of wind and solar power plants. Hydrogen plants already exist. You only have to switch their power supply from fossil fuels to renewables and you get green hydrogen. It's entirely feasible.

Source: https://www.siemens-energy.com/global/en/home/products-services/product/hydrogen-power-plants.html

[–] uis@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

by building 40 green hydrogen plants

Where would they get hydrogen?

[–] smegforbrains@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

The hydrogen is produced by employing renewables during times of overproduction.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Nuclear disasters are messy, but affect less people than coal plants operating normally.

Not just that, but the disasters we do have with nuclear plants are with old ones. Fukushima was built in 1971, 40 years before the 2011 incident. The meltdown it experienced wouldn't just be more difficult in modern reactors. It would be impossible by design. We should be building new nuclear partially to retire old dangerous plants.