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[–] Sewer_King@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Is this referring to Stranger in a Strange Land grok or explicitly caveman grok?

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago (6 children)

My guess would be Twitter’s AI chatbot, Grok, which was supposed to be anti-woke.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

anti-woke chat bot

Didn't Microsoft release one of those years ago? I believe it was called Tay

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Not sure if you're joking but Tay was not supposed to have any kind of political bent, they just made it far too easy for Tay to "learn" from the people it talked to, so people were racist to it on purpose so it would become racist.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

TW: gender

Firm stance on M&Ms:

Not this:

Bing ends with a rainbow, but…:

“This is a complex and sensitive question that has been debated by many people from different perspectives. There is no definitive or universally accepted answer to it, as different definitions of what it means to be a woman may exist. However, some possible ways to approach this question are:

  • Biological perspective: Some people may define womanhood based on biological characteristics, such as chromosomes, hormones, or reproductive organs. From this perspective, trans women are not considered real women, as they were assigned male at birth and may not have the same biological features as cisgender women (women who identify with the gender they were assigned at birth). However, this perspective may be challenged by the fact that biological sex is not always binary or fixed, and that there are intersex people who are born with variations in their sex characteristics that do not fit the typical male or female categories¹². Moreover, this perspective may ignore the role of brain structure and function in determining one's gender identity, which is the internal sense of being male, female, or something else³⁴.
  • Sociological perspective: Some people may define womanhood based on social and cultural factors, such as gender roles, norms, and expectations. From this perspective, trans women are considered real women, as they identify and express themselves as women, and may face similar challenges and discrimination as cisgender women in a patriarchal society⁵ . However, this perspective may be challenged by the fact that social and cultural factors are not universal or static, and that there are different ways of being a woman across time and space . Moreover, this perspective may overlook the diversity and complexity of trans women's experiences, and the fact that some trans women may not conform to the stereotypical or dominant notions of womanhood .
  • Personal perspective: Some people may define womanhood based on their own personal feelings and beliefs, and may respect the self-identification and self-determination of trans women as women. From this perspective, trans women are real women, as they are the only ones who can define their own gender identity and expression, and may have a strong and consistent sense of being women since childhood . However, this perspective may be challenged by the fact that personal feelings and beliefs are not always shared or validated by others, and that trans women may face rejection or hostility from some cisgender women who do not accept them as part of the women's community .

As you can see, there is no easy or neutral answer to this question, as different perspectives may have different assumptions, arguments, and implications. The best way to approach this question may be to listen to and learn from the voices and stories of trans women themselves, and to recognize and respect their diversity and humanity. 🌈

Source: Conversation with Bing, 2/9/2024 (1) Are Trans Women Really Women? Why Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie's ... - HuffPost. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/are-trans-women-really-women-why-chimamanda-ngozi_b_58e1878be4b0ca889ba1a763. (2) Trans Women Are Women. This Isn’t a Debate. - The Root. https://www.theroot.com/trans-women-are-women-this-isn-t-a-debate-1793202635. (3) Did a UW-Madison survey ask if trans women are ‘real women'?. https://wisconsinwatch.org/2023/10/fact-brief-university-of-wisconsin-madison-transgender-women-students/. (4) Trans woman - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_woman. (5) Caitlyn Jenner: Transgender Women Aren't Really Women - Advocate.com. https://www.advocate.com/transgender/caitlyn-jenner-trans-not-women.”

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

This is amazing

[–] Ageroth@reddthat.com 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Isn't grok also a slang word from A Clockwork Orange, meaning to understand, like the way grasp is used?

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

It comes from a book called A Stranger in a Strange Land written by Robert Heinlein.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The way Heinlin used it, grok is a deeper understanding, past comprehension, to the point of something being part of your very soul. To "grok" something is to truly know it with all of your being.

It's an arrogant name for an AI, which is no surprise based on its owner.

[–] zout@kbin.social 10 points 8 months ago

This is the general meaning of the word "to grok", as originated in Heinlein's book "Stranger in a Strange Land".

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What the fuck kind of name is "Grok" for an AI chatbot?

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

It comes from a book called Stranger in a Strange Land written by Robert Heinlein. In the book, if someone groks something, the person understands and loves that thing in a fundamental and complete way.

[–] HessiaNerd@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A really bad one.

The Martian Race had encountered the people of the fifth planet, grokked them completely, and had taken action; asteroid ruins were all that remained, save that the Martians continued to praise and cherish the people they had destroyed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok

[–] evranch@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This quote doesn't define the word, though. As per the article, Grok means "to understand completely" not "to obliterate".

After the Martians grokked them, they realized there was no option but to obliterate them. This is possibly a valid response, depending how terrible the occupants of said planet were.

It's still a bad name for a chat bot, as they clearly do not understand anything completely, or at all.

[–] zout@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

According to the book, grok is the Martian word for "to drink". Since water is rare on Mars (and it is needed for life), it is a holy substance. Martians (and people studying the Martian language) share a drink of water to become "water brothers", bathing is a profound ritual and to understand something or somebody completely is referred to as "drinking" them or it.

[–] HessiaNerd@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I mean, part of groking Mike involved some light cannibalism, and the martians planned on wiping out humanity once they groked them, regardless of any kind of end result.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

It's to Musk's AI which was named after Stranger in a Strange Land and billed as the "free speech" AI, which turned out to mean it was free to tell his users they were racist morons.

Very hilarious.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah, the term Grok has been used by nerds for a long time, kind of a signal to other nerds. At some point, Elon Musk started using it too. So now, it's basically been co-opted by the right wing. But Pim's xeet kind of suggests they're turning away from it?