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[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well yeah. Games that are inherently multi-player and not split screen and feature an aspect of matchmaking are obviously fine to be always online games as a service.

Although personally the games-as-a-service model is something I avoid even in those. Overwatch was made objectively worse when it went from the buy-once model to the pay-once-a-season-or-you-dont-get-the-new-hero model. Mauga is completely busted right now and every new introduction of a hero since 2 launched has felt exactly like this-- busted while paid-only players have access and then fixed after the free players get a chance.

It's the model. Squeezing money out of players is slowly killing even multi-player games like Overwatch.

It's completely and utterly unacceptable for single player games.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Pretty much any GAAS MP game would be better as a self-hostable game. Even ranked matchups can work well that way.

Games are designed around GAAS not because of the design of the same, but the profit model. GAAS is there to sell cosmetics and whatnot.

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You're right. It is a matter of perspective though. For the actual players, absolutely. It's always better to have self hosted matches and control the content yourself. But even in my example above, Overwatch could not sustain itself as a studio on the buy-once model, even with loot boxes. I still think they're doing it wrong and it fucking sucks, but the buy-once model lead to a developmentally dead game for a few years.

From game dev perspective, having a model that makes money over time allows the game to continue being updated without investment from outside sources.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can get money over time with the traditional model, just release content DLCs. I've spent hundreds on EU4 over the years, and I just treat their DLCs as buying a new game since it freshens up the experience for me. For MP, players get access to whatever DLC the host has, which works really well.

Overwatch could totally do that as well. DLCs could have:

  • playable characters/classes
  • game modes
  • maps/settings
  • SP campaigns

Nothing about the game requires an evergreen format. Some games do, such as CCGs like Hearthstone and Magic: Arena since they have frequent card releases and the games are designed around scarcity, but most of these don't.

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

I don't disagree with you. All I was really saying was that Overwatch specifically wasn't making money with its model