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[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 36 points 5 months ago (8 children)

I love when this topic comes up because people definitely don't have a weird fixation on foreskin and totally have balanced discussions that calmly hears both sides.

[–] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 62 points 5 months ago (47 children)

Not a fixation on foreskins but on personal freedoms and the right to choose what happens to your own body:

Are you an adult? Cut off what ever part of your body you want to. I don't care.

Are you an adult who wants to cut of body parts from others? No. Stop it. Let them decided themselves when they are old enough.

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[–] the_brownie@lemm.ee 46 points 5 months ago (12 children)

I think part of the problem with this discussion is that a lot of us who were circumcised without consent spend most of our early years thinking it's normal and there is nothing to be upset about. So when people point out the practice is generally very harmful, it is upsetting. It can be hard to process at first, and I think, unfortunately, some people double down on traditional rationalizations as a defense mechanism.

That being said, I am not a fan of people referring to my genitalia as mutilated/mangled or to me as damaged. It is completely valid to be upset about having your foreskin removed without your consent, but I feel sometimes people veer a little too far in projecting their own hurt onto others. Many people live fulfilling lives with circumcised penises, and some even do it by choice, so, speaking strictly for myself, I generally am glass half-full about it.

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Yeah, I think since the practice is based on organized religion and there's no consent when circumcised, the validity of circumcision is quite questionable.

But, medically speaking, is circumcision harmful?

That's a genuine question and I see a lot of uncircumcised people complain about phimosis and the skin flap getting tighter and more uncomfortable as they grow older, being cut sounds better.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

It can be very very harmful, with pretty much no benefits. The claim that it helps prevent spread of sti's is thoroughly debunked, and a person's risk of getting penile cancer is way lower than the risk of complications from circumcision. The claim that is easier as a baby is also VERY thoroughly bullshit, on account of a baby's foreskin is literally attached to their penis and has to be ripped away. All that pain and risk and long-term damage for basically nothing, it's kinda fucked up that it's still as common as it is

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[–] Belgdore@lemm.ee 23 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Why is this a both sides thing? Circumcision is a Jewish rite that became a larger thing because of a couple mentions in the Christian New Testament. It also has some medical application for individuals with certain conditions.

Doing it to all male babies doesn’t make rational sense unless you are a specific type of religious.

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[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

This mf both sidesing cutting baby dicks, smdh.

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