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One of the admins at lemmy.blahaj.zone asked us to purge a community and all of its users because they thought it was full of child sexual abuse material, aka CSAM, fka kiddy porn. We assured them that we had checked this comm thoroughly and we were satisfied that all of the models on it were of age.

The admin then demanded we purge the comm because they mistook it for CSAM, and claimed that the entire point of the community was to make people think it was CSAM. We vehemently disagreed that that was in fact the point of the community, but they decided to defederate from us anyway. That is of course their choice, but we will not purge our communities or users because someone else makes a mistake of fact, and then lays the responsibility for their mistake at our feet.

If someone made a community intended to fool people into thinking it was kiddy porn, that would be a real problem. If someone of age goes online and pretends -- not roleplays, but pretends with intent to deceive -- to be a child and makes porn, that is a real problem. Nobody here is doing that.

One of the reasons we run our instance the way that we do is that we want it to be inclusive. We don't body shame, and we believe that all adults have a right to sexual expression. That means no adult on our instance is too thin, fat, bald, masculine, old, young, cis, gay, etc., to be sexy, and that includes adults that look younger than some people think they should. Everyone has a right to lust and to be lusted after. There's no way to draw a line that says "you can't like adult people that look like X" without crossing a line that we will not cross.

EDIT: OK, closing this post to new comments. Everything that needs saying has been said. Link to my convo with the blahaj admin here.

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[–] trimmerfrost@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is genuine issue with the fediverse. Many instances could gang up and defederate from an instance and all the voices on that instances are essentially censored, like a typical centralised social media

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is not censorship to say that I will not let you use my resources that I bought, pay monthly fees for, and spend a chunk of my life to maintain, so you can to spread your message. That's fucking unhinged. Come back to reality.

Is it censorship when I choose not to click on a link? What if I have a live stream and people are watching me, is it censorship then? No??? Same fucking thing. My hardware. My server. I get the last say on what runs on it. That's not censorship, that's not even close.

[–] parkomin@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

on the plus side lemmynsfw is safe from admins that are hostile to nsfw in general. most social media platforms had a nsfw purge of some kind in the past.

making a second account for nsfw is what i do for the other platforms anyways. with most lemmy apps and some web frontends, using multiple accounts is pretty easy as well.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

if by "censored" you mean "still perfectly accessible to anyone who wants to read or participate but no longer being actively promoted by strangers". So, you know, not at all censored.