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[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 96 points 6 months ago (6 children)

After XP, Windows focused on adding crap to their aid that use unnecessary resources for crap things. I remember the Aqua look on Vista that sucked the life out of computers. Let’s not talk about Windows Me. Then 8 was a weird interface that no one liked and also not compatible with older machines. So XP is the most stable Windows os that can run on older devices.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 129 points 6 months ago (2 children)

XP still had the designed-by-engineers vibe. Since then, Microsoft got completely taken over by dipshits with marketing MBAs.

They now code Windows to impress executives and shareholders with how much they can harvest data and manipulate customers into using their stupid Store and so on. They stopped caring about the experiences of power users, or even casual users.

They don't want the OS to work for us. They want us to work for them.

[–] KingBoo@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Very well said.

Do you have any suggestions for people wanting to go back to an XP feeling?

A particular distro of Linux, etc.?

[–] gaterush@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I second the recommendation of giving Linux Mint a shot. I didn't use XP extensively but Mint is low hassle and gets out of your way.

I'm not sure it has quite the same feel, but closest I can think of that is also approachable coming from Windows. Obviously a lot of other distros also satisfy the "built by engineers" vibe.

[–] OscarRobin@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Linux Mint is definitely the closest interface- and vibes-wise to XP imo, of the big distros worth considering

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

I have a lot of respect for Linux and use it here and there, but I am by no means an expert on it. The best thing I've done with it so far is running a Pi Hole at home.

Unfortunately, my job involves using MS Windows. A lot. After I retire...soonish...I hope to take some time and learn Linux better.

For my day-to-day Windows misery, I find that ShutUp10 does a great job of toggling off the bullshit you don't want running. And it's easy to toggle things back on if you ever need to. It's a free program you can download and run. I send them a little money every year out of gratitude, but donations are completely optional.

Some FUD mongers will tell you that ShutUp10 'breaks' Windows. That's simply not true. It puts all the Windows settings you can change yourself in one easy-to-find place. Things that are normally scattered all over the UX and the registry.

While you could mess some things up using it if you're not careful, it's very good about color coding and letting you know which toggles are best to turn off, which ones are a little questionable, and which ones you should leave turned on (unless you know what you're doing and can take the risk). I have used it for years now, on multiple PCs, with zero problems. It doesn't make Windows 10/11 GOOD but it makes them less horrible.

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Mint is the usual recommendation for transitioning from windows to Linux.

[–] Dhar@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

I'll second this. Start with Mint or Pop!_OS

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 months ago

Zorin OS is a linux distro designed partly to feel like Windows

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Any distro and a theme. Mate and XFCE work well for that style. Mint and LXQT maybe too.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Though enshittification was coined, I think, with online services in mind, this is a perfect example of the process as it applies to an OS.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Completely agree. For some reason that word tends to trigger a few gatekeepers on here. But I think it fits.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The enshittification of windows is because of its online services. Copilot AI, "telemetry", ads, etc.

[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

Don't forget about Windows 7. That boy ripped. Too bad they didn't take the good lessons from it.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, vista and 7 had a lot of QOL improvements too.

I dont see the point of 10+ though, they pretty much just added fluff.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

They had QOL but I remember my machines running significantly slower. And that was not worth the extra QOL.

[–] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago

XP was a pretty good running OS with plenty of software and games. I held out till 10 was out for a bit and there were programs I wanted to run that required it.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

ME came before XP

[–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

WinME was that OS I ripped off a brand new laptop and replaced with 98SE so it would function correctly. When it crashes and hangs right out of the box...

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Haha. Same here my new computer BSOD’d right out of the box with Me. Freaking HP Pavilion.