I understand this is not popular, but I really do think that he probably just killed himself. It was completely preventable and it’s wild that precautions weren’t taken, but ultimately, I think this was just incompetence and somebody who knew his life was over.

[–] sab@kbin.social 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's just that there's a limit to how much convenient fucking incompetence I'm willing to believe in, and this story is pushing that limit pretty fiercely.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It was one serious thing they failed to do, and that was that. You only start questioning something like that if it’s a series of events that conveniently lined up and/or it was highly improbable. And honestly? It wasn’t improbable/it wasn’t several convenient factors.

I think if there was a serious case to be made these charges wouldn’t have been dropped. Like you, I also leaned into the “I’m not so sure camp.“ But now I just can’t really stand by that feeling.

[–] sab@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I can accept that the two officers in the suicide watch were just incompetent fools. And I completely believe Epstein killed himself - the failure is merely that he was allowed to do so.

But he had already attempted suicide. And the whole damn world was dying for his testimony. Tell any old idiot off the street to watch him to make sure he don't kill himself, and they'd drink whatever amount of coffee it would take to watch him for a week straight without blinking an eye. Still these idiots manage to hire two morons for the job that cannot be arsed to do the bare minimum.

If you took the job seriously, considering the information Epstein had and the fact that he had already attempted suicide, wouldn't you make sure to put officers you knew you could trust on the job? Rather than the two only idiots on this planet who apparently don't care enough about uncovering a network of child rapists to do even the bare minimum of their jobs?

Sure, it's probably just idiots all down the line, and just a funky accident that it ended up serving the interests of the rich, powerful, and morally corrupt. Even so, it just doesn't sit right with me, and I don't think it ever will.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It definitely won’t sit right with me that’s for sure

[–] Zorque@kbin.social -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That seems counter to your stance thus far.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago

I am saying that the situation is horrifying. Surely you can allow me that?