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[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I hope this leads to Apple dropping their bullying-inducing bubble color nonsense.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I live outside of the United States but I’m from there. I like the bubble colors so I can make sure I’m sending free iMessages instead of paid sms messages.

It’s unclear whether rcs will charge for international texts.

[–] Winged_Hussar@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If your iMessages are currently free it's because you're using WiFi to send them (or you have a data allotment).

RCS already supports messages over WiFi (& data) already, so it wouldn't cost you either.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] M500@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok I’ll give you my contact list. Let me know once you convinced them to switch.

[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Who sends SMS anymore?

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Inside or outside the US? That's the trick. In my experience, the US uses a lot of SMS but also usually have unlimited plans. Most other places don't use SMS, pay for it...but have cheaper and less capped data.

[–] thoughts3rased@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago

Most mobile operators in the UK have stopped with SMS limits (unless you're on the really really cheap plans or PAYG). Guess people just don't use them enough to warrant caps on it.

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

We stopped paying per SMS years and years ago in Sweden.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

People who don’t live in the US anymore but still need to message people in the US.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

RCS doesn't charge for international texts on Android. I've used it for international texting.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks! I kinda assumed that it wouldn’t. But I also know how telecoms try to charge for everything.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s because iMessage (blue bubbles) has a whole host of built in features that regular SMS doesn’t have. Read receipts, typing indicators, spoiler text, full quality media attachments, doodling, animated emojis, etc… As soon as an android user joins the group chat, everyone gets downgraded to regular SMS (green bubbles) and has a noticeably worse experience.

Yes, it’s Apple’s fault for not playing nice with android, and intentionally using an older version of texting (SMS). But the “bullying” is because everyone in the group chat suddenly has to deal with the lack of features, and starts complaining.

It’d be like if Discord allowed any user to disable emojis, media uploads, reactions, etc for every single server they’re a part of. Every single server would hate them for it.

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I understand the reason, and I understand the possible solutions, and I also understand that Apple benefits from picking the one that pressures kids into spending a few grand on their devices instead of supporting and mutually improving RCS.

It's user hostile, and it sucks.