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Filter to 1-star and note how many reviews are direct copies of each other - many referencing that the Obamas are executive producers.

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[–] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Can you give some examples? I'd love to discover some gems.

Word of warning - I usually find that movies on rotten tomatoes with low critic scores and high audience scores are hitting the midweek sweet spot for me. Low cerebral requirement, high distraction. If you get me.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've found the same thing, critic scores are harder to use as predictors because there is too much variance between their individual special opinions about the importance of character development vs the average user enjoying a movie for what it is. Obviously crap is crap, but a 56% critic and 82% user score is usually more appealing than vice versa

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Rotten tomatoes doesn't get the average of all critics scores, they only look whether or not the review was positive or negative. It doesn't look at their individual special opinions.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Yea I’m still surprised that people don’t understand this. The most mediocre film of all time can get a 100%.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Their individual special opinions tip their score from 'good' to 'bad' for reasons that other people probably wouldn't care about, is my point.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

Literally anything critical of Christianity (or anything that could even be perceived as critical of Christianity, we can't actually expect them to watch it first).

I guess I should have kept better track over the years... Let me see if I can find a few.

An obvious one (video game though) that I can think of off hand is The Last of Us 2. Fantastic game, user scores brigaded everywhere "because gay/trans."

In fact, I think The Last of US TV show was review bombed after episode 3. Again, "because gay."

The TV show "The Watchmen" was brigaded by users (not sure if they've filtered those out, or if the score has been adjusted since, but when it originally aired, user scores were very very low due to review bombing). Anyone who's seen the show could tell you exactly why that happened.

Here is an article about it happening to a film about the Armenian Genocide (I haven't seen the film so I can't say if it's good, but I'm sure it doesn't deserve 1-star)

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/the-promise-film-christian-bale-armenian-genocide-imdb-turkey-oscar-isaac-a7378881.html

I will have to try to keep track from now on. Sometimes it becomes a cultural moment, like with TLOU, but lots of times it goes under the radar, and a show/movie/game gets quietly fucked over by idiots on the internet who have no interest in even trying the media first.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Another example of a movie where the audience score is higher than the critic score is Tommy Wiseau's The Room. Not sure if this applies in general to movies "so bad they are good" (though personally, at this point I believe Tommy knew what he was doing because he's been able to repeat that "so bad it's good" despite knowing how they are received, whereas if it was really driven by his ego, I'm sure that same ego would have forced him to change it up to get the critical acclaim the was supposedly chasing.)

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not really of the mind that a piece of media can be "so bad it's good."

I understand the sentiment, but I generally do not agree. Maybe "so bad that it's fun to laugh at with friends," but "good"? Nah.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

To be honest, I agree with this. It would be more accurate to say, "so bad it's entertaining", but it's generally laughs at the media rather than with it.

Though since I think Tommy did that deliberately, I would argue that "so bad it's good" does apply to The Room. Though the ethics are a bit questionable because I don't think he let any of his staff or cast in on the joke. I also suspect those sex scenes were real sex and one of the big motivators for the movie.