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Minnesota’s new state flag should feature an eight-pointed North Star against a dark blue background shaped like the state, with a solid light blue field at the right, a special commission decided Tuesday as it picked a replacement for an older design that many Native Americans considered offensive.

The State Emblems Redesign Commission chose the final version on an 11-1 vote after finalizing a new state seal that depicts a loon, the state bird. Unless the Legislature rejects them, the new flag and seal will automatically become official April 1, 2024, when Minnesota observes Statehood Day.

The star echoes Minnesota’s state motto of “Star of the North.” The commission’s chairman, Luis Fitch, said that to him, the light blue represents the Mississippi River, “the most important river in the United States,” pointing to the North Star. But he acknowledged it could mean other things to other people. Symmetry and simplicity won out over other versions, including ones that included a green stripe for the state’s agricultural heritage.

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[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I cant make out the racism. Is that supposed to be a slave? It looks like a taco bell employee the way hes dressed

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Native American on horseback.

[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

How is that racist? Native americans are a big part of the state's history

[–] wieson@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's a depiction (celebratory?) of them being purposely driven away from the land. The Native American is fleeing.

[–] aulin@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Wow. I saw it as the two people sharing the land. I did not see it as fleeing. Still a terrible flag, and even more so if it can be interpreted so differently.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I saw it as the two people sharing the land.

Honestly? Even if it was unequivocally that it would still be a problem. The whitewashing of using violence to drive people from their homes and then pretending that they came to an agreement to share the land is just gross.

[–] aulin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's true. But I was thinking the motif might be from before all that.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There really isn't any "before all that" though. Especially that far west. Along the east coast there might have been a generation of "we just want to escape weligious pewsecution and gwow cown uwu 👉👈🥺" but the first permanent settlement in Minnesota was in 1852, 7 years after the phrase "manifest destiny" was coined. Minnesota was established during the era where the prevailing belief of white Americans was that God commanded them to take all of America for themselves and anyone who tried to stop them was to be destroyed.

[–] aulin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Oh, shit. I don't have that detailed knowledge of US history. 1852. That's almost 100 years after its founding, right? I had no clue it took that long to spread west.

[–] trafficnab@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just two friends hanging out with their spear and their rifle respectively at hand

[–] aulin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

The rifle is just chilling. The dude's plowing.

[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well that, unfortunately i guess is also a part of their history

[–] wieson@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Yes, but a flag is not the place to tell history. It usually depicts your ideals.

If Germany had f.ex. a shattered David's Star on their flag, that would accurately depict history. But it would read as antagonism and a current stance on things. As if it was their goal to destroy Jewish people.

[–] hactar42@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It has to do with the setting. It's not just a Native American riding away on horse back, but the fact that the settler is watching him with his rifle near by. It is like he is driving him away and claiming the land for his own.