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Hospital workers confessed to concealing weapons in incubators in the Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU), a space intended for treating premature babies.

Video: https://www.ynetnews.com/article/b15f0ps8p

Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20231217121032/https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/1702751840-idf-conducts-operation-in-hamas-controlled-hospital-apprehends-90-terrorists

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

They can also force confessions of terrorism! Pretty bold headline that's parroting IDF propaganda, if you ask me. Wouldn't say this article belongs in a news community.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You could very well be right, but even if true it gives the lie to weeks of their excuses for how they have handled this so far.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is also true. Any way you cut it, the IDF are the villains in this story.

[–] speaker_hat@lemmy.one -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Who will save the Palestinian population from Hamas, that setup military cells in civil buildings, schools and hospitals?

Did anyone tried to save them?

Did anyone succeed saving them?

By the current ongoing IDF revelations, since Israel disengaged from Gaza (2005) as an attempt to give Palestinians independence, there was ongoing terror prosper, not Palestinians prosper, but terror prosper.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Funny how the anti-Israel crowd moves the goal posts from there is no evidence to, this is IDF propaganda and can't be trusted. I guess the footage they released of Hamas tunnels was also faked? The footage of belligerents shooting from the hospital too?

[–] athos77@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

On one of those videos that the Israeli soldiers filmed themselves and then posted (because they don't think they've done anything wrong), there's one where they're singing a song about attacking their enemies and one of the lyrics was something to the effect of "there are no civilians" among the Palestinians.

Of course, if the Israelis think that there are no Palestinian civilians, that means that every Palestinian is an enemy soldier, and therefore a legitimate target. :/

[–] speaker_hat@lemmy.one -1 points 8 months ago
[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's true that I don't trust the IDF here, just as I wouldn't trust the SS in WWII. If you think that's farfetched, then I will hope you come to your senses.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Soo, you trust Hamas instead?

[–] Froyn@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago

IDF slogan "Hamas was all the bodies we created along the way"

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Lol gotta love these deflections and whataboutisms. I always wonder if you lot are deliberately deflecting, or if you're just incapable of engaging in any meaningful way.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is a valid question if you do not trust IDF as source of information. It is not diversion tactics.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Incorrect. I challenge you to scour my post and comment history for any mention of Hamas or anything that would justify you asking such a question. (I'll save you some time -- you won't find it.)

Otherwise, we'll just assume you're deflecting.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

So, which information you chose to believe then? A made up one as you see fit?

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Edit: “Fascism is good, actually.” -liberals

Reportedly considering harsher immigration laws is fascism now? 🙄 What a reasonable take.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can you show me 40 decapitated babies?

I will start to consider trusting them after that.

[–] speaker_hat@lemmy.one -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

More than 100 bodies found in Israeli kibbutz Be’eri after Hamas attack (CNN) I don't know whether they are decapitated or not, but these are who IDF fight against, babies murderers.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The point was that the IDF made a big deal in the opening days about how they had found forty decapitated babies, and used that as proof of how bad Hamas was.

That was the one where they went too far and everybody started wanting proof of so outlandish a claim.

I really wish I could find the video where the IDF guy say something like” we know we have lied in the past but this time it is different.”

Those babies are where people started doubting them and looking at everything so clearly

[–] speaker_hat@lemmy.one -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It isn't related to this article.

The article state facts, and they'll remain facts until otherwise proofed regarding this article.

[–] speaker_hat@lemmy.one -4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You are being wrong saying it's a propaganda because this is not a lie. It's an official report from within Gaza.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I have no doubt there are official confessions obtained via coercion including threats and possible torture.

[–] speaker_hat@lemmy.one -3 points 8 months ago

I do have a doubt, because there is no proof it happened.

However, there is a proof that weapons were found next to baby incubators.

After Hamas killed more than 100 babies with their own hands, I actually won't have a doubt they'll put weapons next to these babies.

You can have doubt, you can not believe it, it's ok, but facts are facts.

Hamas is brutal and bad for the Palestinians, prove me otherwise.