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[โ€“] machiabelly@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hawaii was great until the haoles fucked it up. So was a lot of pre colombian america. And parts of pre colonization africa.

Just because Europe was shit doesn't mean it was shit everywhere. Europe is pretty unique in that it has been total warring itself for over 2000 years straight. The streak ended in world war 2, but goes back to the bronze age.

Could those places I listed be improved by modern medicine and trains? Sure. Doesnt mean they were terrible.

[โ€“] pingveno@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Those areas are also wildly romanticized. Let's not forget that one of the ways that some Europeans got established was by trading guns to indigenous people so they could go off and kill other indigenous people for their land.