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A PasswordCard is a credit card-sized card you keep in your wallet, which lets you pick very secure passwords for all your websites, without having to remember them! You just keep them with you, and even if your wallet does get stolen, the thief will still not know your actual passwords.

A very cute idea, well implemented.

Your PasswordCard has a unique grid of random letters and digits on it. The rows have different colors, and the columns different symbols. All you do is remember a combination of a symbol and a color, and then read the letters and digits from there. It couldn't be simpler!

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. It's far safer to pick secure passwords and write them down, than it is to remember simple and easy to guess passwords. You already protect your wallet very well, and even if it does get stolen the thief will still not know which of the many thousands of possibilities on the card is your password.

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[–] Fake4000@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why not use something like Keepass? Just one password to remember.

Am I missing something?

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's good for people who don't trust, can't or don't want to use password managers. It's also way simpler for a regular person (who'd otherwise write the password down anyway) while still being quite secure.

It'd also be great for choosing your password manager master password without risking that you forget it and without writing it down outright.

I like it, clever and practical.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

one of my good friends, reuses the same simple, short, password on everything.... her facebook got compromised and she STILL wont change her password.... its maddening.

I'm thinking of trying to get her to use a password manager, or at least a card like this....

[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Hardware security key might be better.

I would also add that I like the mobility of not needing to log in somehow to access my passwords. If I am on a friend’s computer, for instance, all I need to do is visit a website with my current password generator.

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

With this method, you don't need access to an electronic device that's tied to your password manager, don't need to trust a cloud provider, don't need to set up your own cloud.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, your not missing anything. Its a interesting option, thats all.

Where do you keep your KeepAss master password? Perhaps a password card could be a interesting way to keep/secure the master vault password for a password manager.

[–] 314xel@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Where do you keep your KeepAss master password?

In my head. If you use a long passphrase, it's easy to remember, easy to type, and secure.

The pregenerated book of codes is used since ancient times and it is interesting, but I would much prefer to educate people to use passphases instead.

And everybody has a phone with them at all times, you can have Keepass on it. It doesn't use the cloud, it's local, and if you need to sync the password database file automatically with your PC it's safe to keep it in the cloud, it's encrypted and only decrypted locally. But I myself use a self-hosted instance of Nextcloud.

[–] Fake4000@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's an interesting concept, but I love to carry a wallet as thin as possible.

I'm not George Costanza :)

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fair!

Just remember to never give your secret code to anyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUVd4cFD5-s

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think this would be useful for people who only have a few passwords, or don't use tech heavily.

Hell, maybe it could be useful for my day-to-day passwords, since I have probably 100+ in Bitwarden.

I'm not getting my elder family members to use Bitwarden.

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got my mom to use Bitwarden. There was a bit of effort setting her up, but now she is really happy with it.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice! Congrats!

How old is she? How did you market it to her?

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She is in her 80's. I mostly just explained WHY she would need one, and promised once she was done with the transition, things would be easier. Her old password method was a weathered old piece of paper with everything scribbled down on it, with lots of old pet names and other animals with random numbers attached.

Now she is very happy with being able to have all of her passwords ready either on her computer, phone, or iPad, and she feels a lot more secure with the long random passwords.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Wow, 80s! I'm seriously impressed, by both of you. She must be something else to be willing to try something so foreign to her, and you clearly knew how to present it to her.