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[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Marxist Leninists when they haven't ignored 150 years of contemporary political science for sixteen microseconds

[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago

You better be quiet before you summon the bears.

[–] rando895@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Mostly the parts where autocracy doesn't liberate the workers. Even temporarily.

[–] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Every time I start to listen and learn from people more left than I am, they get to the part about how after revolution there's probably going to be a period of autocratic rule that should then dissolve by the will of the people. Except none of them talk about plans to actually facilitate the transfer of power, or better yet, prove Lenin wrong by not going thru a period of more authoritarianism.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And "communism has never been tried" is such a stupid word game.

They tried to try. What happened, fellas? How'd it go?

[–] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 8 points 7 months ago

If anything, communism has been tried, but it's never been achieved. A stateless, classless, currencyless society still sounds frickin awesome... But that's not we've had :(

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Right, the massive gap in Marxist theory is, and has always been, workable statecraft.