I always had the weird thought that maybe conservatives could be convinced into reason if socialistic ideals were reframed to "sound" more conservative. Sadly I suck at anything relating to politics so eh.

[–] _danny@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's how I've framed raising the minimum wage to some hard right co workers.

Why should my tax dollars subsidize Walmart, McDonald's and these other companies that pay minimum wage knowing their workers will be on welfare? If your business has to pay a wage that has to be compensated by the government, it's a failing business.

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That's the way! Using the same rhetorical pattern they are used to hearing, "they took our jobs!" and slightly modifying it to point to a different "evil", the corporations rather than the traditional scapegoats.

[–] runjun@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Due to how I look and where I work, conservatives constantly assume I am one too. I used to discuss/debate them about their views. I gave that up. Now I just say I disagree so that even if they tell others that everyone that talk to agrees with them, somewhere in the back of the their mind they know that’s not true.

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It’s interesting how it seems so important for "conservatives" to believe that everyone agrees with them

[–] runjun@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Cause they know the policies are cruel and doing cruel things is easier when others buy in.

[–] shani66@lemmy.comfysnug.space 1 points 7 months ago

The driving force, the raison d'etre of the authoritarian mind is to be normal. Not be happy, not be rich, not be good, be normal, by whatever they feel is normal. Not only is it pretty pathetic, it makes them justify their beliefs with the idea that they are normal even though they are anything but.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 5 points 7 months ago

Everyone should be a business owner!

[–] shani66@lemmy.comfysnug.space 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not just a thought, these people don't think through their political beliefs (to be fair many people don't, but most others don't make it a core part of themselves either), it's mostly just aesthetics for them.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

Aesthetics or athletics, they see it as a team sport too lol Gotta support the reds even if they really really suck this... Century.