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Some Republicans are good at deceiving others into thinking they're good people.
I live in a red state. None of them are good people. If they were, they wouldn't align with a party of hate.
I live in a very red part of Florida. They've all been pretty nice to me. Of course, I'm white, my baby is blonde haired and blue eyed, and I'm in the military. They usually get pretty surprised when I open my mouth and start spouting crazy commie stuff like Trans Rights are Human rights.
some republicans are ~~good people~~ not awful to literally everyone
I'm a tall chubby cishet dude with a big beard in VA.
People say the quiet part out loud to me within 3-5 minutes basically anytime I go to a bar or something, and all the normies treat me like I'm the asshole when I disagree with the guy saying trans people are too in his face and need to dress appropriately because they're such a nice guy otherwise.
Well clearly they're not, are they, if they think entire sections of the population shouldn't be allowed to live their life (or whatever the subject is?)
My partner passes as a straight cis white dude and works in finance and you are right, within the first interaction of meeting a bigot they will open their mouths and out themselves. And the worst part is, they nearly always phrase it as an in-joke, or an in-thing, like they are figuratively 'wink wink nudge nudging' him and it drives him fucking crazy that they just assume he's one of them and will nod or laugh along. Instead, he pulls a reverse uno and shames them, very politely, for various super neutral reasons: like not being professional and staying on topic, or for being a hr violation, etc. He's found the less progressive, more business-neutral language really fucks them up, they get super embarrassed
I'm a white redneck looking cis male in South Dakota. Many of these "nice" people think I'm one of them and will share their most abhorrent opinions with me, which they may not disclose in polite company. It's to the point that I have to wear "woke" shirts that say things like BLM or trans rights to avoid these monsters.
I assure you my belief that Republicans are awful is not unfounded. Ask them what they think about LGBT+ people. "As long as they don't shove it down my throat..." Ask them what they think about Native people -- "That was so long ago, they need to get over [the genocide]." Ask them if climate change is real, ask them about the poor, ask them about undocumented workers.
Republicans are unfit for society. They would immediately be cast out of any functional community, and rightfully so. The only way to deal with them is to socially and systemically deplatform and disenfranchise them. That's why I'd never make friends with a Republican.
Is it kind of the same thing as saying the Jews are greedy compared to something like that person is greedy and is also a Jewish person. The Jewish part doesn’t matter and it’s only used as a descriptor. As in when you say republicans are awful you aren’t separating the good from the bad, I cannot believe there are no exceptions and if there are exception what makes it any different to the argument against racism?
No, this is not an all the same thing, and you are unhinged if you think it is. The entire Republican platform is anti-human/anti-progress, and if you align with it in any way, for any reason, you have gone out of your way to be a piece of shit.
There's no such thing as being a Republican and simultaneously being a good person. These things are not compatible, and certainly not comparable at all to something like race or ethnicity, such as being Jewish.
Edit: If you are arguing that Republicans have the potential to be good people, then this is absolutely true, but it would necessitate ceasing to be a Republican, which they can choose to do at any time.
"Some of the Nazis were good people" -- Get the fuck out
People are religiously and/or ethnically Jewish. Republicans are a political party (are you implying being a Republican is a religion or an ethnic group??) Seeing Jewish people as greedy is a stereotype based on racism. Republicans vote for policies and platforms that are bigoted. This is crazy that you think these two things are the same, or are even comparable at all.
The grouping and assumption of someone’s goodness or badness being based on something as complex as a political opinion is also crazy. There are multiple policies and sometimes people just do things to follow the crowd. Being misguided is not the same as being a bad human
Race is something you are born into and to assume all people of that race believe the same thing is ridiculous... They are a group of individuals tied together by chance. Republicans are a group tied together by beliefs. If those beliefs are bad, then the entire group is bad because they all believe the same thing because they all willingly joined that group
You’re saying all republicans are exactly the same? The awful, vile, racist nazi trumpers are the same as the quiet country family that go to church and do charity work and only vote r because they always have and their church community all vote r. They have an exchange student from Africa staying with them because one time they did some missionary work there and thought the people were great? If you think those two are the exactly the same and even believe the same thing I can’t see how that’s all that different fundamentally than racism.
Yet both of those groups vote for the same politicians and policies. You can live your life how you want but you show your hand in the voting booth
People aren't good for bad because of their ethnicity or religion. They're good or bad because of the choices they make. A Republican is someone who has chosen to support the Republican party. That's such an absolutely vile choice to make that I have no problem with condemning everyone who makes it.
I think you’ll find most people voting r come from backgrounds who always vote republican. It’s a way of life and the idea of voting another way has never entered their mind because of one or two issues like abortion or some other non money related policy. Take abortion for example, these people literally think they are saving innocent babies from being slaughtered. Sounds noble to me, even like they’re, dare I say it, good people or at least trying to be. Except when you take into account the infringement of someone elses bodily autonomy and the part where a bunch of cells don’t have the same consciousness of a fully grown human or even a late term baby which appears to be how they’re thinking about it. Then they’ll throw some other bullshit like it’s what could have been before you killed that fetus. Life is precious. Nearly every one of them then happy to take life saving medicines or wear glasses to change “what could have been.” And then they’ll never ignore that the bible gives instructions on how to abort a fetus and doesn’t appear to condemn it. These people seek truth and want to do the right thing. They’re just denying logic in the process.
If you are republican you believe in cutting social safety nets, pro war, anti gun regulation, and anti lgbtq. I view all of those as "bad people traits". I don't think anyone who can say they are for gutting welfare can also say they are a good person at heart.
They might be polite to a fault, but they're still not good. I agree.
Exactly. You can say please and thank you all you want, hold doors open for people, smile at them on the sidewalk, but that's all thrown in the garbage if you aren't willing to actually do something to help people.
Welfare is a great example - most republicans use the "it's being abused" line as their go-to reason that it should be scrapped. Being a good person is knowing that it is being abused - but the value of it helping people outweighs the 1ish percent of people who are on it and abuse it.
Half of the programs are so neutered it's like, who cares that it is? Ohhh noooo this guy makes $23k instead of $22k he still can't afford to eat let him have his blistering $100 of ebt. 🤷
My favorite is catching those "I wouldn't work either if I could just live on a check!" types. I encourage them to get that ssi check if they can, while explaining that they'll have to spend their savings down to under a grand, if they have two cars they'll have to sell one, etc etc - all to pull like $800/mo that'll drop to $50 if they log so much as a few hours at a part time job.
If that sounds like heaven to you, live yo best life fam. 🤷 But I don't think that reality aligns with their vision of life of SSI.
Hard to describe, but this is one of the final confrontations of a story I’m writing, and I love it;
“Look, you don’t get it. We don’t need to fight. I’m not with those racist psychopaths, I’m just following their orders and keeping my head down.”