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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

That explains why my 2017 Dell XPS 13 9360 with an 8th gen i7 never went to sleep properly. Originally it would just keep running the fans and the battery would drain. Then after a while it seemed to start sleeping but never turned on again so you'd have to reboot anyway. In the end I wiped Windows 11 off it and installed OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. Now shutting the lid works just fine.

I also have an XPS 13 9310 with an 11th gen i7 and Windows 11, and if I close the lid it seems to sleep but sometimes I come back to a completely dead battery.

I don't really understand the point of Modern Standby. Who wants the laptop to do things when it's closed and possibly in a backpack with no ventilation? That's when we want it not to do things.

[–] min0nim@aussie.zone 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is one area where Apple has it pretty right. A Mac will do somethings when ‘asleep’ like download emails and texts. It also can broadcast its location if the ‘Find Me’ function is on. If it’s plugged into power then backups will also run, and background app updates will happen. It does this in a low power mode, so it won’t get hot enough to need fans. It’s worked flawlessly for 20 years. Meanwhile all our PCs are set to ‘never sleep’ and just get shutdown when not in use. I never trust a PC laptop to wake successfully from sleep just by closing the lid.

[–] kayazere@feddit.nl 7 points 11 months ago

I have problems where when my Apple Silicon MacBook Pro will have been “asleep” for days in a backpack and then I try and use my Bluetooth headphones on another device, it will connect to the asleep Macbook.

I solved it by running a small program that kills Bluetooth when the laptop goes to sleep.

[–] Jesus_666@feddit.de 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

People are using their smartphones instead of their PCs. That hurts sales. So PCs need to behave more like smartphones, e.g. by being able to notify you of new messages at all times. Then people will surely ditch their smartphones again and buy laptops.

Intel, Microsoft et al never considered that that's fundamentally not how PCs should work.

[–] astraeus@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

My desktop is the same way, “sleep” means the lights are on but nobody’s home.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So instead of looking into the settings and disabling fastboot, you decided to completely wipe the OS and install something else?

And here I thought Linux users understood technology...

[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

Fastboot has nothing to do with this.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago

It's not at all a fastboot issue, and I had other reasons to use Linux.