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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

My biggest issue with scooters is that the sidewalks on most streets in North America are way too narrow to safely use them while others are walking, and we're seriously lacking in dedicated bike lanes. Both of which are issues with the prioritization of car infrastructure over all else as opposed to problems with scooters themselves. Since scooters cannot safely run on the road but is still too fast for exclusively pedestrian paths. Where there are dedicated bike lanes in my city, scooters share them with bikes perfectly fine.

[–] Tak@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I feel like most roads where you'd ride a scooter the cars would be less of a problem if they followed the speed limit. Scooters should be able to go down 45mph roads just fine but there's always some massive truck going 60.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, unfortunately speed limits don't mean anything and studies show that drivers pretty much always drive as fast as they think they can regardless. The issue is that North America has stroads which are highly conducive to driving fast, damn near highway speeds. If we had the narrow, potentially tile or even cobblestone local streets that European and Asian cities have it would be less of a problem because those conditions directly promote lower speeds and more attentive driving.

[–] Tak@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I've heart NotJustBikes say similar things. I normally don't favor control over everything but at this point I would be ok with cars having electronically controlled speed limiters to not exceed the speed limit of whatever road they're on.

It's really just created such an entitled, careless, and demanding mindset where bikes need to have speed limiters on them for safety but Fred can buy a 1200hp 3 ton weapon with no limiter.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

CityNerd also has a video on speed governors! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBSkLrYbLk0

It's also not unheard of either. IIRC Japan had speed governors on their cars for a time, which limited them to their national highway speed of 100 km/h (which is still very fast to be fair).

[–] Tak@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

I'm perfectly fine with there being interstates that go 85mph I just don't want people driving so fast in dense areas with mixed traffic. If I could have people just not be assholes that would be great but I feel like driving the speed limit now is just reason for someone to get angry with you and want to drive you off the road.

I'd love to ride a bike everywhere I can but every road I would be riding would have traffic going over 45mph with massive vehicles who have drivers so impatient they'd rather run you off the road than share the road.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Or just build roads and bike spaces with safe separation.

If you tighten roads people natively drive slower