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[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It depends on the terms of employment. If they are salaried, then there are no real work hours and just work to do. In general, if someone is salaried, they're paid to do a job not when they do it.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

They want it both ways - we are 'overtime exempt' because we're 'paid for the job' but also after the job is done - they think they own us.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is not true. Salaries only means your pay is decided on a yearly basis and divided into each paycheck and not calculated and tracked per hour. Other conditions of employment including working hours and specific job duties are all part of your employment agreement. If your agreement has no set hours of any sort or limitations for other work, then there’s no problem. If a company is going to agree to pay you a salary, they are going to set how many hours you should be working, and reasonably expect you not to be double dipping.

[–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No to the second-to-last assertion, not definitionally. The last one is simply begging the question.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Which are you talking about specifically?

[–] gollum@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure why people downvoting you.

You have some good points and arguments, specially compare to the "they think they own us" comments. Everything isn't black and white.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

There isn’t a lot of room for discussion here from what I’ve seen. The demographic is very far-left to a fault. Those that are in white collar jobs should probably read their employment agreements, handbooks, etc. a lot of incorrect information floating around.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe it is because I have worked in tech oriented roles (which this article is geared towards)but none of my jobs have stipulated number of hours I need to work.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How specific is your employment agreement?

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not nearly that specific. Not sure why it would be unless the company sucks at measuring performance.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

There have been times in my career I wished it were more specific. I've found companies with loose employment agreements tend to make things your job by reclassification more often than not.