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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

the only thing that changes is the number on the clock. So adjust your life based on the actual darkness. Start work an hour earlier, go to bed an hour earlier, etc etc.

It must be nice to have those options, but hardly anyone does.

One example off the top of my head where a change for an earlier summer night would be summertime local events.

Currently, they start after most people have had dinner, and end while it's still daylight. This is a good thing since many venues don't have the appropriate outdoor lighting. These would either have to start earlier and interfere with dinner, or later and run into it got dark. That would be awful.

Workplaces that are 9-5, factoring in a commute and dinner, some people might never see evening daylight all year if it were cut short.

What benefit would it actually give, other than not needing to argue about it every year? πŸ˜‚

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why can't the workplaces change to 8-4 instead?

It's not the fifties anymore, 9-5 isn't even the norm anyways. Only about 30% of the workforce are in offices.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If it's anything like school, having people start work earlier will result in lower productivity. Maybe.

It still wouldn't solve the fact that summer daylight would be cut short.

Seems far more difficult to replace work hours than to keep daylight savings...

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No daylight is cut short, jfc. There's exactly the same amount of daylight either way.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The number of hours of daylight is irrelevant, since I'm sure most people would benefit from later sunsets than earlier sunrises.

Kids especially, who you wouldn't expect to be waking up at 5am just to catch more daylight hours.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You mean waking up at a regular time relative to the sun?

Why does the clock saying the number 5 matter? Why is it so important the clock says a certain number when you wake up?

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's not about when you wake up, but when you go to sleep.

As I mentioned previously, fewer hours of daylight at the end of the day negatively impacts a lot of people, summer community events, leisure activities, pedestrian safety, etc.

What benefit would we gain by getting rid of daylight savings?

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So go to bed earlier, genius!

Good Lord.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if you even understand what you're writing.

Can you explain how going to bed earlier gives you more daylight at the end of the day?

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because you wake up earlier, start work earlier, and get home earlier.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can keep repeating that, but waking up earlier doesn't change what time the sun goes down at night.

Very few people have the option to "start work earlier", or start school earlier. They work when they work.

It really seems like a lot of effort to compensate, when it requires no effort the way it is.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Very few people have the option to "start work earlier", or start school earlier ... It really seems like a lot of effort to compensate

We literally do it twice a year already! Holy fuck

What I'm proposing is to do it ONCE and then nobody ever has to worry about it ever again!

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago

We literally do it twice a year already! Holy fuck

No, we change the time on our clocks to collectively benefit from a later sunset. Business hours don't change.

What I'm proposing is to do it ONCE and then nobody ever has to worry about it ever again!

You're proposing that everyone suffer through earlier sunsets in the summer, but haven't explained why it would be a good thing.