Hamas has shown just how brutal they are willing to be the past few days and they explicitly have in their charter the destruction of Israel. Hamas given the chance would absolutely ethically cleanse all of the Levant of Jews. The PLO has a martyr fund for dying while killing Israelis. Israel not fighting would absolutely lead to complete destruction.

On the other hand, if Israel wanted to, it could completely wipe out any and all Palestinian areas. Palestine has no real air force, navy, or artillery and wouldn't be able to stop them. The only reason Israel hasn't done so is they have decided not to.

This isn't commentary on the entire conflict or the history or who is right/wrong. I'm just pointing out that this is factually incorrect.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Correct, the situation is much more nuanced than a simple sign could say. Both sides have rights and very wrongs about them. The only thing that should really be on signs should be "both sides should stop the violence and talk it through", but we all know about how well that would go. Still, star trek taught me that should be the goal.

[–] muddi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Great point! Have you seen the documentary Star Wars btw? They have some interesting counterpoints on the use of violence against one's oppressors in the interest of obtaining freedom from said oppressors.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“both sides should stop the violence and talk it through”

Hard to have a sit-down talk when one side (Palestine) outright says their goal is to kill all Jews and Christians.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Someone lied to you.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago

Way to comment on something from over a year ago. And no nobody lied to me. I read the manifesto that Hamas publicly published.

[–] ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

sigh why do these oppressed people hate their oppressors so much? Why do they have to fight for their freedom instead of just being nice?

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

yeah its sorta the reverse given hamas vs israel official stance on each others existence.