neshura

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[–] neshura 0 points 4 months ago

I guess the frog has to get into the pot first is their point? I agree that the metaphor is not doing a very good job at conveying whatever was meant though.

[–] neshura 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yes, it is and you don’t even realize that you are participatin in a platform that doesn’t completely block Facebook Threads right now. That’s proof enough that you don’t understand the technology.

https://sh.itjust.works/instances lists threads.net under the blocked instances list, not everyone is using lemmy.world. Inform yourself before accusing others of making uninformed statements.

[–] neshura -1 points 4 months ago

No need for admins at all, just have the users keep the place clean entirely by themselves, I'm sure that will work wonders /s. Let's not worry about people browsing the instance before making an account by which they could block such content. That's such a silly idea, who'd ever want to do that. No instead let's make it so the entire thing is only usable with an account... wait I've seen that somewhere else before.

As for me being "hysteric" about an unfounded "conspiracy theory" I'm not, as is this "feature" is not implemented and if you could read you would have spotted me being pretty clear about this likely being a nothing burger all the way at the start of the conversation. Here's the quote since you apparently missed it:

And to be fair here if the ads get federated they will likely be marked as such in some way so other Fediverse platforms should be able to filter the ads out easily.

At the very beginning this was simply a discussion about the potential impacts of this "feature" threads wants to implement. The people coming in here completely naive and blind to any potential outcome to this other than "sunshine and rainbows" are you guys. I'm not saying Threads will push ads into the fediverse. I'm not even claiming they would do it in a malicious manner. I was simply refuting the claim that it could not happen. And despite your claim I am familiar enough with mastodon to know that can happen via tag relays at the very least.

For someone calling others uninformed about the fediverse I am astonished how uniformed you are about it yourself. I am by no means deeply familiar with the activitypub protocol or the fediverse despite running an instance but I know enough about it that I can say with absolute certainty that ads could and would find their way to the fediverse. Would that be somehow novel and new? No, relays are a known factor and by their very nature they do not filter out unwanted content. When an admin subscribes to a tag or instance relay they get all the content from that relay not only the stuff they want. As such ads would not be much different from a regular post made by a company. I never claimed such anyway. I only claimed if Threads made ads federate (if then most certainly with a marker that it is an ad for compliance reasons) they would end up in the global feeds unless the platform backends implement whatever mechanisms Threads would use to mark those ads in the activitypub data. I see no reason provided so far to discredit that possibilty. Learn to differentiate between hysteria and reasonable discussion before making wild accusations next time.

[–] neshura 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Are you aware that a global feed exists on Mastodon?

[–] neshura 10 points 4 months ago (6 children)

The example shown literally is a regular post simply marked "Sponsored" so it can be assumed that post would federate just like any other post. The only difference being the Sponsor marker likely being a Threads exclusive ActivityPub extension so unless other platforms implement that the post would show up as a regular post on e.g. Mastodon.

Them being in compliance with EU regulations while simultaneously blasting their ads into the Fediverse are not mutually exclusive. There are ways for them to do both. And to be fair here if the ads get federated they will likely be marked as such in some way so other Fediverse platforms should be able to filter the ads out easily.

[–] neshura 50 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (14 children)

bold of you to assume that ads won't just be disguised as regular posts (and therefore federate)

Edit: after reading the article I heavily suspect ads will federate. As is they are just specially marked posts so I see no reason to think they won't federate.

[–] neshura 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The way I see it the point where it becomes too negative would also be the point where several laws would crack down on it anway (ie the game would be shut down for inciting violence) it's rare for an actual hate mob to skirt the line between "legally hateful" and "illegally hateful" for long so in that sense the problem would regulate itself

[–] neshura 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ich gehe sehr stark davon aus, dass TSMC hier versuchen wird nicht mal Ost-Gehälter zu zahlen sondern noch weiter darunter. Genauso gehe ich davon aus, dass jegliche Anmutung der Belegschaft eine Gewerkschaft einzubringen illegal unterbunden werden wird.

[–] neshura 18 points 4 months ago

This is going faster than I expected tbh. Gotta check whether the vote history is available so I can make some "fancy" graphs about the rate of votes/day.

[–] neshura 40 points 4 months ago

Knowing Catholic run schools this might as well have been last week.

[–] neshura 19 points 4 months ago

As the other commenter already said it's an abundance of caution. GItea is already moving in the direction of SaaS and an easily self-hostable solution runs counter to that plan (Gitea is already offering a managed Cloud so this is not a hypothetical). One thing that has already happened is Gitea introducing a Contributor License Agreement, effectively allowing them to change the license of the code at any time.

[–] neshura 147 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (11 children)

I'll be that guy: Use forgejo instead, its main contributor is a Non-Profit compared to Gitea's For-Profit owners

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