neshura

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[–] neshura 1 points 7 months ago

Praise be he came back with the sauce

[–] neshura 1 points 7 months ago

Not surprised Sono Bisque Doll landed that high given how banger the chapter was. Been a while since I've sat here all giddy waiting for the next chapter like I am now

[–] neshura 15 points 7 months ago

If they are indeed going after MangaDex they are shooting themselves in both feet. MangaDex is the one site that pretty much immediately reacts to DMCA claims by publishers and authors. If they lawyer them out of the space the void will be taken up by entities that play less nice.

[–] neshura 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You very obviously do not understand how the blocklist works so here's a very practical example:

ani.social is blocked by lemmy.ml.

Here is a post on lemmy.world containing comments by users from ani.social: https://lemmy.world/post/18538115

Here is that same post on lemmy.ml, which has blocked ani.social: https://lemmy.ml/post/19043133

Note the absence of any comment made by a user on ani.social. As far as users on lemmy.ml are concerned ani.social does not exist (as of 10 months ago, some existing content before then can still be viewed). I think you don't know how ActivityPub works and calling me a conspiracy theorist won't change that.

[–] neshura 22 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Italy being more of a hot mess than Greece is a bit unexpected, guess they are doing worse than I though.

[–] neshura 0 points 7 months ago

I guess the frog has to get into the pot first is their point? I agree that the metaphor is not doing a very good job at conveying whatever was meant though.

[–] neshura 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yes, it is and you don’t even realize that you are participatin in a platform that doesn’t completely block Facebook Threads right now. That’s proof enough that you don’t understand the technology.

https://sh.itjust.works/instances lists threads.net under the blocked instances list, not everyone is using lemmy.world. Inform yourself before accusing others of making uninformed statements.

[–] neshura -1 points 7 months ago

No need for admins at all, just have the users keep the place clean entirely by themselves, I'm sure that will work wonders /s. Let's not worry about people browsing the instance before making an account by which they could block such content. That's such a silly idea, who'd ever want to do that. No instead let's make it so the entire thing is only usable with an account... wait I've seen that somewhere else before.

As for me being "hysteric" about an unfounded "conspiracy theory" I'm not, as is this "feature" is not implemented and if you could read you would have spotted me being pretty clear about this likely being a nothing burger all the way at the start of the conversation. Here's the quote since you apparently missed it:

And to be fair here if the ads get federated they will likely be marked as such in some way so other Fediverse platforms should be able to filter the ads out easily.

At the very beginning this was simply a discussion about the potential impacts of this "feature" threads wants to implement. The people coming in here completely naive and blind to any potential outcome to this other than "sunshine and rainbows" are you guys. I'm not saying Threads will push ads into the fediverse. I'm not even claiming they would do it in a malicious manner. I was simply refuting the claim that it could not happen. And despite your claim I am familiar enough with mastodon to know that can happen via tag relays at the very least.

For someone calling others uninformed about the fediverse I am astonished how uniformed you are about it yourself. I am by no means deeply familiar with the activitypub protocol or the fediverse despite running an instance but I know enough about it that I can say with absolute certainty that ads could and would find their way to the fediverse. Would that be somehow novel and new? No, relays are a known factor and by their very nature they do not filter out unwanted content. When an admin subscribes to a tag or instance relay they get all the content from that relay not only the stuff they want. As such ads would not be much different from a regular post made by a company. I never claimed such anyway. I only claimed if Threads made ads federate (if then most certainly with a marker that it is an ad for compliance reasons) they would end up in the global feeds unless the platform backends implement whatever mechanisms Threads would use to mark those ads in the activitypub data. I see no reason provided so far to discredit that possibilty. Learn to differentiate between hysteria and reasonable discussion before making wild accusations next time.

[–] neshura 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Are you aware that a global feed exists on Mastodon?

[–] neshura 10 points 7 months ago (6 children)

The example shown literally is a regular post simply marked "Sponsored" so it can be assumed that post would federate just like any other post. The only difference being the Sponsor marker likely being a Threads exclusive ActivityPub extension so unless other platforms implement that the post would show up as a regular post on e.g. Mastodon.

Them being in compliance with EU regulations while simultaneously blasting their ads into the Fediverse are not mutually exclusive. There are ways for them to do both. And to be fair here if the ads get federated they will likely be marked as such in some way so other Fediverse platforms should be able to filter the ads out easily.

[–] neshura 50 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (14 children)

bold of you to assume that ads won't just be disguised as regular posts (and therefore federate)

Edit: after reading the article I heavily suspect ads will federate. As is they are just specially marked posts so I see no reason to think they won't federate.

[–] neshura 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The way I see it the point where it becomes too negative would also be the point where several laws would crack down on it anway (ie the game would be shut down for inciting violence) it's rare for an actual hate mob to skirt the line between "legally hateful" and "illegally hateful" for long so in that sense the problem would regulate itself

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