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[–] blurg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Or as Dijkstra puts it: “asking whether a machine can think is as dumb as asking if a submarine can swim”.

Alan Turing puts it similarly, the question is nonsense. However, if you define "machine" and "thinking", and redefine the question to mean: is machine thinking differentiable from human thinking; you can answer affirmatively, theoretically (rough paraphrasing). Though the current evidence suggests otherwise (e.g. AI learning from other AI drifts toward nonsense).

For more, see: Computing Machinery and Intelligence, and Turing's original paper (which goes into the Imitation Game).

[–] blurg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Oooooh, okay, I misread. Apologies.

[–] blurg@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yet use AI (possibly) to determine users' AI answers.

[–] blurg@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

~~The "running joke" used by millions for serious and playful projects? [edited for punctuation]~~

[–] blurg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Used to know someone who looked for cars around a restaurant, or long lines waiting to get into a tiny cafe, asked wait staff for interesting places they liked to go; went into non-chain stores where locals shopped (off the main streets); asked walkers and service station workers for directions. Always had wild stories about what happened, if you could get past their private nature. Weird fucker, unpredictable, never could get used to'm. Likeable enough, though.

[–] blurg@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Let's extend this thought experiment a little. Consider just forum posts; the numbers will be somewhat similar for articles and other writings, as well as photos and videos.

A bot creates how many more posts than a human? Being (ridiculously) conservative, we'll say 10x more.

On day one: 10 humans are posting (for simplicity's sake) 10 times a day, totaling 100 posts. Bot is posting 100 a day. For a total of 200 human and bot posts; 50% of which are the bot.

In your (extended) example, at the end of a year: 10 humans are still posting 100 times a day. The 10 bots are posting a total of 1000 times a day. Bots are at 90%, humans 10%.

This statistic can lead you to think human participation in the Internet is difficult to find.

Returning to reality, consider how inhuman AI bots are, with each probably able to outpost humans by millions or billions of times under millions of aliases each. If you find search engines, articles, forums, reviews, and such are bonkers now, just wait a few years. Predicting general chaotic nonsense for the Internet is a rational conclusion, with very few islands of humanity. Unless bots are stopped.

Right now though, bots are increasing.

[–] blurg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Exactly. A more accurate headline would be "Americans are Falling Behind on their Income."

[–] blurg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yes, though in some locales there are "work crews" (slave labor) that clear brush, road litter, and such for businesses, organizations, the state, and individuals.

[–] blurg@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Back in 2000, there was something like that for the kernel with SELinux (Security-Enhanced Linux). Which continues to live in various distributions' kernels. Not a full O/S though, and not generally regarded as a PoS.

[–] blurg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah, there are two basic approaches to safety: evidence of harm and evidence of safety. Evidence of safety is the higher standard (e.g. broad long-term independent studies). Evidence of harm is a low standard (e.g. small studies, short-term studies). Guess which one is used for herbicides, pesticides, food, ...

[–] blurg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that sounds reasonable in the long run (years), while the laptop plan is more immediately useful.

[–] blurg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

And what would be better recommendations for the poor individuals trapped by loans?

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