No one will use a fork of Wayland. That would be suicide.
Famous last words ...
Dirk
joined 1 year ago
You cannot even record single windows without having your DE patching that in for you.
X11 […] has become an unmaintainable patchwork of additions.
Wayland will be an unmaintainable patchwork of protocols, once it will have the same functionality as X11 has.
Now, 12 years later, it still is not production ready.
I use it on both my laptop and my desktop computer. It got better during the last 1-2 years.
While my laptop (13" 1080p screen) is pretty much fine running with Hyprland on an integrated Intel GPU, my desktop computer with a 28" 4K screen scaling is messed up completely and needs tweaking, sometimes down to a per-program base. Sometimes the font is gigantic sometimes I need a microscope to see anything. That was definitely better on X11.
On my desktop I run labwc, that does not come with own functionality regarding this: I just recently got whole-screen video recording and now have to wait likely another year or two for single-window recording. (There is a protocol for this, that took two years to be merged, which is just ridiculous for such a low-level base functionality that should be implemented from the beginning on.)
Other than that, all my common programs are running okay with Wayland.
I personally think it is a very bad idea to “speed run development” of protocols.
Stalling the development of protocols for nearly a decade is bad, too.
They should talk and meet somewhere between “Just develop in production!” and “I personally dislike it for non-technical reasons, so I will block it for everyone!”
aber auch wenn du was Körperliches hast, bist du ja häufig unterwegs,
Mein Arzt meinte zu mir mal, ich solle mich (war Winter) dick anziehen, und täglich mindestens eine Stunde an der frischen Luft verbringen.
Welcome to Germany, Ami.
Wut hab ich da auch.
I actually just run the update commands individually when I feel like.
su -l 'pacman -Syu' # All regular packages
pakku -Syu # All AUR packages (I know this updates regular packages, too.)
flatpak-update # Update Flatpak packages with a function I wrote
Since I do not trust Flatpak (especially when it comes to driver updates and properly removing unused crap) I once created this monstrosity.
flatpak-update () {
LATEST_NVIDIA=$(flatpak list | grep "GL.nvidia" | cut -f2 | cut -d '.' -f5)
flatpak update
flatpak remove --unused --delete-data
flatpak list | grep org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia- | cut -f2 | grep -v "$LATEST_NVIDIA" | xargs -o flatpak uninstall
flatpak repair
flatpak update
}
The initial problem with Flatpak thinking it would be a good idea to add dozens of Nvidia drivers and re-download and update all of them on every update (causing a few gigabytes of downloaded files on every run of a normal flatpak update even if nothing needed to be updated) is reportedly fixed, but I just got used to my command.
Praktisch alles, was im allgemeinen Sprachgebrach als KI bezeichnet wird, oder als "mit KI" beworben wird, ist nichts weiter, als Mustererkennung (mal mehr, mal weniger spezifisch).
Are we still doing ancient memes?
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That’s part of my issue I have with Wayland protocols. It was added a month ago. After several years! During research I found discussions ~6 years old, this PR was 2 years old, and superseded a 4 years old other request.
In the meantime some environments implemented that on their own without waiting for the protocol. If I understand correctly: Gnome as well as KDE have implemented it outside the protocol. And Hyprland devs forked wlroots to advance development faster and also add that. (Correct me if I’m wrong.)
Since labwc uses wlroots (but is a bit slow with adapting to new versions) it will take quite some time before I can put a checkmark after my last usecase. I am optimistic that it will work. But I accepted that it may take several years to add new functionality and a few months before the functionality arrives in wlroots and at some point after that in labwc.