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every time i can't remember how to use a command (lemmy.world)
submitted 5 months ago by atmur@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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this image comes to mind every time i use man pages

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)

man man

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Is it just me or is man and --help kind of confusing to understand? Idk, I just have difficulty learning the commands that way.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ha ha ha, no you are most certainly not alone, that's gotta be one of the most common gripes with new users. Those things were written in the 70s and have remained unchanged since. It's a standardization thing. :)

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I find --help to be often useful, but man is hard to sell. As a tool to know more details of an option or to know everything that's available, it's great. As a first contact with the CLI tool or a quick lookup, man past the first paragraph is often a waste of time. For most lookups cheat.sh is much quicker.

Though I've recently been using clipea with GPT-4, and it's by far the best experience. Fastest way to have straightforward one-liners that do pretty much what you asked for.

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[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

And then the manpage goes:

ThE fUlL dOcUmEnTaTiOn CaN bE vIeWeD wItH "info blah invocation"

Stop trying to make info a thing. It's not going to be a thing.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I used a tool yesterday whose manpage told me to look into --help for full list of commands. The audacity!

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They could've just copy-pasted it! And --help should be a brief, easy-to-understand list of commands and explanations, not an extension

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some examples and common uses would be nice...

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah. I recommend the TLDR terminal tool. You can contribute command TLDRs. If there is a one for said command, you can type tldr comad and it will give you some valid uses and example commands.

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[–] renormalizer@feddit.de 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Especially when you don't have a US keyboard. How the fuck am I supposed to navigate through the info document when the key combination to follow links is Ctrl+] and ] itself is hidden behind some modifier combo?

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like it needs better localization

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 5 points 5 months ago

It needs to die in a fire. All hail man pages!

[–] Libretto@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 5 months ago

That's basically just GNU programs

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

tldr

[–] honeyontoast@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Man is too much for me. I can't handle that many words at once, which is why I like using tldr

[–] Krtek@feddit.de 2 points 5 months ago

Using u and d instead of page up and down made it much more readable for me, then you don't have a whole page with every button press

[–] mayst0ne@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

man date always makes me chuckle

[–] Hjalamanger@feddit.nu 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I first read this like "look, here is a image of a man" (-:

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A miserable pile of secrets

[–] VindianaJones@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Enough talk… Have at you!

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Ecce homo!

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children) 
curl cheat.sh/curl
[–] 65gmexl3@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

this will be helpful, but looks like github repo is no longer being maintained

[–] Driveway4964@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Yes babe I am real man, do you want to go skateboardz?

[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Does this horse have a dog's tail?

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I've never used it. Just typing /h -h --help and if that doesn't work then I'm Googling it.

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[–] Emanuel@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Guts' theme plays

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago

spaceballs? oh shit there goes the planet

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Back in the 90s

[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

I was in a very famous TV show...

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Man horse beach? Man steed sea? Man pony sand? What?

[–] spizzat2@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You didn't see the battery staple?

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

That's correct

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can lead a horse to water...

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But you can't make it RTFM?

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Neigh.

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[–] PanArab@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just don't use ChatGPT or Bing AI

[–] GregorTacTac@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

I will use Google Bard then

[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You mean "history" right? Right?!

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So many times I have looked up a command, used it and then forgotten the syntax. History is a life saver.

[–] admin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You would probably love mcfly https://github.com/cantino/mcfly

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Just installed it! Love it, and I just learned that ctrl+r is a thing.

[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Love this, but now I'm also realizing how awful my workflow is in general. More than half of the time when I get into a groove I don't even switch directories between tasks and end up just calling the relative path like an animal 😆

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

IT WAS EARTH ALL ALONG!!

[–] JayObey711@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Why doesn't he call the avangers is he stupid?

[–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Without man i'm nothing

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

That's what she said!

*hides from angry feminists*

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[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

This made me laugh out loud for real.

[–] ian@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's one small step for man.
One giant leap for a horse?

Can horses type yet?

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