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A third of UK teenagers believe climate change is “exaggerated”, a report has found, as YouTube videos promoting a new kind of climate denial aimed at young people proliferate on the platform.

Previously, most climate deniers pushed the belief that climate breakdown was not happening or, if it was, that humans were not causing it. Now, the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) has found that most climate denial videos on YouTube push the idea that climate solutions do not work, climate science and the climate movement are unreliable, or that the effects of global heating are beneficial or harmless.

Researchers from the CCDH gathered a dataset of text transcripts from 12,058 climate-related YouTube videos posted by 96 channels over almost six years from 1 January 2018 to 30 September 2023. They also included the results of a nationally representative survey conducted by polling company Survation which found 31% of UK respondents aged 13 to 17 agreed with the statement “Climate change and its effects are being purposefully overexaggerated”. This rose to 37% of teenagers categorised as heavy users of social media, meaning they reported using any one platform for more than four hours a day.

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[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

...how am I not surprised?

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

yea ... sighs ... I've recently been unable to shake the thought/realisation that we've just made the whole "TV will rot your brain" thing worse. There was a moment there where the internet seemed to be an improvement on TV, but the net result now, and I fear irredeemably, is that it's worse.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think it's just new. We can control the internet through decentralization, kinda like the project we're on right now. Expecting any brand new tech to be perfect right out the gate is just wishful thinking though, it needs development and refinement.

TV is literally just major corporations plowing things straight into your brain, though, with very little ability to prevent it except by not watching tv.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Well that’s the thing. That’s what the internet is now. And my fear is that it will stay that way for a good while as too many don’t see the point in making it something else which would just be more “boring”. But it wasn’t always this way. Putting aside the endless September, before big social, it was worth it. Now big social has captured a whole generations understanding of what it means to be online.

[–] WhiteRabbit_33@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Staying away from the big platforms has worked out well for me. Those are well under the control of corporate interests like TV, but I now have access to several independent journalists from across the world, the ability to fact check a topic within minutes to hours instead of days to never, and a much easier way of organizing with like minded people.

The internet is a tool. It's more full of misinformation, disinformation, useless garbage, and scams now than it was, but it's still useful if you know how to sift through it. We should be educating our youth on how to do that and identifying the list of pitfalls above to help make it even better.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

We should be educating our youth on how to do that and identifying the list of pitfalls above to help make it even better.

Hear hear!!

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I think the key point is that improvement is possible here. Something humans have within the realm of things they could do. As opposed to tv, which isn't really fixable.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"As long as money and lack of policy is involved moms credit card is ours" - Corporations On Kids 1200BC

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’m curious to hear what they think the benefit to exaggerating climate change would be. It doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to come to the conclusion that the people funding and making those exaggeration claims are probably also the ones that benefit from oil.

[–] chaosppe@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I have a barber that believes its about controlling the population towards different products. (ie reducing fossils fuels to remove influence from OPEC)

But the same person also believes that 5g towers is giving us all cancer so 🙄

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Conservatism is a contagious disease and young people are not immune.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, someone has to be at the bottom of the bell curve!

[–] andymouse@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A bell curve counts the frequencies of a single parameter. A person, such as a teenager, does not fit on it.

[–] andymouse@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 months ago

Also, the bell curve does not have a single bottom.