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Tachiyomi replacement is out (github.com)

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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 91 points 5 months ago

Kakao in the near future, trying to handle Tachiyomi forks:

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 36 points 5 months ago

I'm assuming this one is because he's just going to tell them to fuck off.

There's no legal basis to take it down.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 41 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Perhaps Mihon will tell Kakao to fuck off. But if Mihon doesn't, someone else will. [Plus I wanted an excuse to post a cute kitten .gif]

There’s no legal basis to take it down.

Even when there's no legal basis, a corporation is better prepared to potentially lose a legal battle than a bunch of amateurs are to potentially win it. It's a form of corporate trolling - "both of us know that you'd win if you fought, but also that you won't fight".

That works fine if you're a corporation dealing with one group that dares to stand between you and the money. But it fails if used over and over, as eventually one group will say "you want a bloody legal battle mate? We're focking getting one."

[-] Xanvial@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Quick scanning of the repo, Mihon didn't host or even mention the extension to read external source. So it basically just an application platform. If Kodi still survive, I think this will too.

The mistake of tachiyomi is putting the extension to read piracy website together with the base application

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[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago

Hilariously, I'd never heard of any of this stuff until this company decided to Streisand the fuck out of themselves.

And the best part is that they went after the container instead of the content, so all they did was make their problem even worse...

[-] shatterling@lemm.ee 54 points 5 months ago

Thanks OP, an FYI you can restore a Tachiyomi backup from Mihon to migrate straight across 👍

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[-] autokludge@programming.dev 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Excellent, have been watching this.

Warning from the release:

Beware of any new fake versions of Mihon or Tachiyomi.

[-] Nugelz@programming.dev 26 points 5 months ago

Anyone got any good extension repos? I'm more into western comics than manga

[-] Vineyard8927@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

https://github.com/keiyoushi/extensions maybe?

[-] Lemmchen@feddit.de 6 points 5 months ago

How trustworthy are those extensions? I see they are APKs.

[-] Xanvial@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

All of tachiyomi extensions are APKs since a long time ago. Previously we just trust it because it's hosted by tachiyomi itself. So you should still worry about the trustworthiness because it's hosted by unrelated person, but shouldn't because it's apk.

Maybe in the future Mihon should implement support for non-apk extensions, but for now we can only use that

[-] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago

There's source code repo for those APK: https://github.com/keiyoushi/extensions-source

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[-] Nugelz@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago

Thank you, have made a post this now

[-] Lemmchen@feddit.de 26 points 5 months ago

When F-Droid?

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[-] Cameri@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

Cut off one head of the Hydra and another two grow in its place.

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 months ago

you're gonna wanna get off GitHub fast

[-] JStenoien@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

Why? Nothing about the previous situation had anything to do with it being on github.

[-] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago

ACDAB - All Corporate Dogs Are Bastards

[-] SBS1313@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The extensions seem still untrusted even after reinstalling. Does it need third party extensions??

Edit: will extensions be updated??

[-] jjagaimo@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 months ago

Browse> extensions>tap shield>trust

worked for me

[-] SBS1313@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago

I did that but what i meant is that when will it stop or when will it restore back to not sending errors anymore...

[-] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 14 points 5 months ago

Yes, it needs third party extensions.

[-] Kissaki@feddit.de 5 points 5 months ago

What's the difference then?

Is it the same software, a rebrand, a publishing team change?

[-] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 13 points 5 months ago

It's a fork.

[-] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

Lawyers went after Tachi Devs, Devs abandon Tachi, new Devs forked Tachi and made Mihon.

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's a fork, done by a previous Tachiyomi developer and maybe a TachiyomiSY developer too. So it's partly a publishing team change, as the main developers are different.

Since Mihon is exactly the same as Tachiyomi, besides changed branding and requiring Android 8+, it's also a rebrand.

Edit: It's also functionally exactly the same software.

[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 months ago

That's fast, I just looked at the GitHub repo this morning and didn't see anything there

[-] Kazumara@feddit.de 11 points 5 months ago

I thought this was supposed to be here: https://git.mihon.dev/mihon, without github

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Probably mirror.
Maintainer is the same.

[-] Klystron@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

Tachij2kfriends, I saw the mihon dev post somewhere that tachij2k shouldn't be used anymore. Is there a reason for that? Everything is still working on my end, and until it doesn't I intend to just keep using tachij2k unless there's a good reason not to. I also read somewhere that the Dev for j2k said he was gonna make some changes, but I wasn't able to verify that... Anyone know anything more? Thanks

[-] IdleSheep@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The reason the Mihon de said that is because j2k is using an older tachiyomi base iirc. Updates on it have been on the slower side.

It's still being actively worked though (as far as I know) and it still works fine, so there's no reason to switch off of it for now. If Jay does drop it then you should move onto mihon or its forks (TachiyomoSY and TachiyomiAZ will be based off of mihon in future versions).

[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

If it works on your end, no reason to stop using it. The reason they suggested to move elsewhere is because, at the time, there was no indication that j2k had any plans for continued development. Might've changed since they put that out, but that's what they sajd

[-] plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 5 months ago

Anyone know why the change? I'm aware that they were being targeted but I thought removing the extensions had appeased the kcorp.

[-] reddthat@reddthat.com 38 points 5 months ago

The devs just said fuckit afterwards, as you do when you get a lawsuit saying your about to be so far in debt because of your side project that your whole life will be turned up side down.

I would have done the same.

[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Kakao (or whatever they're called) were going after everyone involved, so Tachiyomi has been deprecated, one of the devs forked it and will continue development.

[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Mihon is from the tachiyomiSY devs, ~ick~ I don't know if they are the same but from a glance they are different.

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago

A long time Tachiyomi developer made the commits making branding changes to Mihon, so they might work together. But as they didn't fork TachiyomiSY, its dev might continue work on it too.

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[-] johnlobo@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

official tachiyomi is dead

[-] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sorry, I'm super tech/software illiterate, can someone explain how to transfer what I had on tachiyomi over tonthis new app?

[-] jjagaimo@lemmy.ca 26 points 5 months ago

Rn it's just reskinned tachiyomi so export backup > import backup in mihon

[-] Ralis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 5 months ago

It's simple. Go to Tachiyomi and create a backup. Then, in Mihon, during the first setup, it should give an option to restore backup. You can also resotre backup in Mihon settings, then go to extensions and (trust) the restored extensions.

It's pretty much the same app at its core. So no need to change file names or formats. Everything should transfer.

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

~~If anyone's wondering why Mihon looks slightly different than Tachiyomi, the reason is this is a fork of TachiyomiSY, which has some changes/features over Tachiyomi (e.g. a predicted next chapter release date).~~

What I wrote is all wrong. I've just looked through the commit history and Mihon is a fork of Tachiyomi and currently it doesn't have any changes besides branding and being Android 8+.

I don't know why I believed otherwise, but it might be F-Droids 3 months old Tachiyomi build, which lacked many features compared to up-to-date TachiyomiSY.

[-] Xanvial@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Latest version of tachiyomi also has prediction of next release

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[-] SkullHex2@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

What is keeping Kakao from doing the same thing again?

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 5 months ago

Kakao (hopefully) won't get to know the real names of the developers, which will prevent them from suing the devs personally.

They could try to DMCA claim the repo, but Tachiyomi is completely legal, so hopefully Github won't take it down. Github previously helped youtube-dl after they got DMCA notices.

[-] OpenHammer6677@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

How is this different from TachiyomiSY?

Edit: SY will continue by forking Mihon

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago

As far as we know, TachiyomiSY has the same relationship with Mihon as it did with Tachiyomi previously. Maybe it'll change since SY's dev is also said to work on Mihon, but we'll see.

At the moment Mihon is the same as Tachiyomi with changed branding.

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