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[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 94 points 5 months ago

What a garbage article. Elon sucks, the cyber truck sucks, but an article about tweets is less than worthless. Perhaps the article instead of assuming elon just "didn't have time to run tesla properly", should dig a bit deeper and demonstrate that tesla was successful despite elon, not because of elon. Same with Space-X or Star-link.

Now as far as why the cyber truck is getting stuck in snow, tires is the low-effort answer, but maybe look at the weight of the truck versus the contact area. Maybe look at how the traction control system works? How about whether the car is front wheel bias vs rear-wheel biased. Does it make assumptions about which wheels have contact to the ground? Does it have a differential or are all 4 wheels independently controlled? (I don't know the answer to any of these by the way, but if I were concerned about a vehicle getting stuck in the snow, I'd certainly want an analysis that addresses all of the above.)

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Welcome to modern “journalism”, throwing together a few sentences based on twitter and reddit posts, without any research or asking experts.

[-] drivepiler@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

"Another user said...."

It's so ridiculously low quality journalism it's embarrassing

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 45 points 5 months ago

But some online commentators have come to the Cybertruck's rescue by pointing out that the cars being shown didn't have snow tires or snow chains, and it getting stuck may be due to over inflating the tires or driver error.

The part of the truck that touches the roadway is exactly the same design as the part of any other vehicle that touches the roadway.

There's a point to be made about the overlap between the people who want a Cybertruck, and the people who aren't self-sufficient enough to make sure that their vehicle can operate in the winter, but this has no bearing on the merits or not of the Cybertruck as a vehicle.

Also:

"Another storm, another CyberTruck needing a rescue," they wrote. "It's like finding a leprechaun that's constantly getting stuck in a glue trap."

😆

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

Well, they advertised it as a truck that does truck things...

And the people with them now, ordered years ago.

It all comes back to range, and the range is horrible. So out of the factory they get "fuel efficient" tires that are great for range and terrible for everything else.

Put on truck tires, let alone winter, and range will nosedive.

Not everyone will drive one in snow, but all of the suckers who bought one know the range.

[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

It also weighs way more than a normal truck. I think.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

If it does that would help...

Weighing it down gives traction. Hell, most hillbillies load up their truck beds in the winter because the weight is such a big help, especially in the back.

I think I might have heard something about weight distribution though, like a normal truck has an engine over the front, but Tesla's weight is in the middle of the axle.

But this is the tires, and probably something about whatever this things equivalent to a transmission is. Like you only need to put your foot on it a little for normal driving. Which means take offs in snow would almost always spin out.

So like the RPMs of the wheels go up to fast? I think that's the easiest way to say it.

It makes a vehicle seem faster the less you have to push on the gas pedal, it's a pretty old trick, because most people never floor it, so they don't notice halfway thru it stops doing anything.

[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

That makes sense

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[-] greedytacothief@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

I see Jersey schmucks up here with their pavement princess trucks getting stuck in the snow all the time. I see locals in a Corolla or fiesta or other tiny light car make it just fine in deep snow. One of my bosses at the ski mountain used to drive a mini Cooper an hour to work every day.

This is a skill issue.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago

Also snow tires make a huge difference in the snow

[-] 50MYT@aussie.zone 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I used to have an old Subaru (Leone, 83).

I could get it anywhere in the snow. It was so easy to drive. It had absolute pizza cutters for tyres.

Once drove up to a ski field without chains on. Was one of only 7 cars to make it to the top (with zero issues) because there was so much snow.

Was a blast to drive.

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[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 25 points 5 months ago

I’d feel like such an asshole driving one of these things. If someone gave me one for free, I wouldn’t even want to park it in front of my house.

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[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Egh, looks like the facebook crowd has come to Lemmy.

Wrong tires.. It's that simple..

I hate Elon as much as the rest of us, but this reads like it's written by the Anti-EV crowd. All it needs is an ad for a Dodge RAM at the bottom.. And, I don't particularly find the cybertruck (or any large truck), appealing at all tbh

I can put the wrong tires on my jeep too, and skid off the road when its wet.. Not everywhere needs snow tyres (here in Australia, they would be useless), and I'd be guessing they're less efficient too?

Also, I'm not really sure how it works with deep snow (since I'm here in Australia), but wouldn't snowchains help as an alternative? Or can you not use them on EV's?.. Or do they not work with deep snow?

[-] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Chains are only useful if there’s snow compacted onto the road (like in a lot of mountainous areas). Winter tires are useful because they stay softer in cold weather, while summer tires get hard as a rock below a certain temp, turning your car (or cybertruck in this case) into a sled. There are also studded snow tires, but they’re useless or even dangerous on roads with no snow.

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[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Not anti-EV crowd, just anti-Elon. I hate him as much as anyone else but people just throw absolutely any rationale out the window when it comes to anything he's involved with (especially around here).

I've seen several leftists at this point straight up turn their backs on EVs and literally start parroting conservative propaganda about them. So sad.

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[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

Tires may be part of the equation, but ground clearance is typically more important to avoiding getting stuck in the snow.

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[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago

How is this thing still real?

[-] realitista@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

They set out to make the truck version of the Delorean and succeeded.

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 5 months ago

How do we know it is? I suspect all photos of the thing are AI-generated deepfakes. 😜

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[-] arin@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

All season tires in snow = a terrible time

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 7 points 5 months ago

All seasons with a tiny sidewall = bad news pretty much anywhere but pavement.

Although I do think Tesla needs to work on their traction control system to better mimic having locked differentials after seeing the hill climb video from a few weeks ago. This should be able to be performed via an OTA update though.

[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Mighty? It was a joke from the start. The only reason for buying it is a novelty for collectors. I don't think it was ever meant to be driven.

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[-] Vakbrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 months ago

Probably bad tires to be honest. Bad tires for a hideous truck: a loosing recipe.

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 4 points 5 months ago

Too bad the tires are tied to the wheel and can't just be exchanged

[-] weew@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago

they aren't tied to the wheel, just the hubcaps. If you want to run it without the hubcaps, you can put whatever tire you want on it.

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

Truck built for truck things fails at truck things

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[-] BiggestBulb@kbin.run 7 points 5 months ago

I remember MKBHD made a comment about the snow possibly being an issue opening the doors as well. Hoping these things were actually tested in super cold conditions

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[-] Fridgeratr@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Maybe if it didn't weigh 3 tons...

[-] carbrewr84@kbin.social 10 points 5 months ago

Weight is actually a good thing in the snow. Too light of a vehicle and it's hard to get any traction without something like tracks.

The struggling in the snow is most likely an issue of tires. If someone put some all terrain or ideally snow tires, I'm sure it'd do significantly better.

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[-] anachronist@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago

Who would have guessed that an offroad vehicle designed in socal only works on bare, dry, triassic limestone.

[-] HowMany@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

Remember how well the Delorian didn't do? Mush has one that's going to do 1,000 times worse. Way to go boy genius.

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[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Holy shit that thing is ugly..

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