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[–] Maho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 132 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously? their attack against an asshole transphobe is... calling her tr*nny and being exactly as shitty as her?

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 130 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's why it's so juicy, they're all such terrible people we don't have to pick sides

[–] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Literally Jersey Shore for nerds... Why do we primates love trashy drama so much???

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[–] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube 129 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I have half a mind to start releasing cracks just so there's 1 cracker who isn't a fucking bigot.

EDIT: btw, didn't Voksi get arrested back in 2018? And EMPRESS started releasing cracks in like 2019. So are we to believe that Voksi goes to jail for a year, and immediately comes out and starts cracking again, all without receiving another visit from the feds? Doubt.

EDIT2: lol here's Voksi's response: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/2218172

Fuck EMPRESS and SKIDROW, SKIDROW for dragging Voksi into the petty bullshit and both of them for their childish, edgleord bullshit.

[–] yukichigai@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have half a mind to start releasing cracks just so there’s 1 cracker who isn’t a fucking bigot.

I have had this exact thought, but that would undoubtedly eat up what little free time I have these days. I don't have as much of it as I used to.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

And that's why all those folks have mental issues. Having the skill is not enough, you need to pretty much dedicate your whole life to "the craft"

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[–] 3TH4Li4@feddit.ch 127 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Seems like no cracker or repacker is ever mentally sane. Like, defending DRM and trans-slurs? Really? Not like Empress is normal either but wtf

[–] Helix@feddit.de 59 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the anti-gay and anti-trans commentary really made me repulse.

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[–] Neato@kbin.social 104 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What the fuck? First they call out Empress for actually being a man from Bulgaria. Then they drop a transphobic slur. Then they defend DRM and publishers.
I can understand supporting the developers and promoting buying software you enjoy when you can. But one of the big motivations for cracking software is software preservation and removing DRM that harms legit user experiences. So I say again, wtf?

[–] vsis@feddit.cl 38 points 1 year ago

I didn't understand the DRM part neither.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 18 points 1 year ago

There's this thing where they pretend they actually do it to be first and not because they want people to download their cracks. And that's how you get the crazy talk where they pretend they're pro-DRM.

[–] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

The worst thing is that, compared to empress, they were quite moderate. I don't know what's wrong with them or why they're all so mad... but I love the drama, I'm looking forward to the next episode.

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[–] sourcery@lemmy.one 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I did not have defending DRM on my bingo card. Transphobia is especially vile though.

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[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Jesus, everyone involved in this shit is so deranged. God I hope the "Scene" dies out with the next generation, just chill people releasing cracks without following a tome of rules and schizoposting.

[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is there some correlation with this insane low level understanding of software engineering and a mental health issues? A lot of the scene seems to be like this and good old Terry Davis (rest in peace you racist)

[–] AtomicPurple@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Unironically, yes. Multiple studies dating back years have found a link between high intelligence and various mental health issues.
There was one particular paper I read about a decade ago, where researchers surveyed a bunch of collage students to find demographic trends based on their preferred operating system. From what I recall, the demographics of Windows users were not too far off from those of the university as whole, and Mac users were similar, aside from women being significantly over-represented. Linux users on the other hand, were almost all men, and nearly every mental health issue imaginable was over-represented by a huge margin.

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[–] Xirup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Drama aside, Skidrow really does "cracks"? I thought they were only repackers.

Voksi, you fokkin prick, DRM exists for a reason in this world, it protects legitimate interests of actual hard working people, that are entitled to get a decent income from their hard effort!!!!

I'm not on any "side" but wut? We are talking about a repacker to a cracker, I think they can be considered equally "guilty" in the sense of "making hard-working people lose money" by distributing the games themselves. And what the hell, I'm pretty sure that's not the reason DRM exists, and if it is, it's to secure the income of companies, not their workers.

[–] miracleorange@beehaw.org 26 points 1 year ago

A lot of scene people say they only do it for the "competition and glory" (which they said in here) because none of them really play the games they crack, but obviously it's hypocritical as fuck.

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[–] YoMismo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 1 year ago

Personally I don't give a fuck about all this drama, it's like a cockfight for me, but a scene group defending DRM !? Finally may be they got paid to avoid denuvo releases...!?

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 44 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I don't pirate games but after reading this, I DEFINITELY will not pirate games. If these clowns are the ones cracking/repacking the games then I do NOT trust the games to not contain malware/bullshit/whatever. Maybe I'm being paranoid but I wouldn't go anywhere near software put out by these people. They sound like the types to include malware just to frame the other group or whatever. Idk. These people are morons.

[–] miracleorange@beehaw.org 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only repacks I trust are FitGirl's, mostly because they're compressed to all hell and she's always just... kept her head down.

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[–] iliketrains@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nowadays I assume cracked software (unless if the crack script is fully open source) to likely contain some kind of malware and I just sandbox them since I play cracked games with bottles flatpak anyway.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Kwdg@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Flatpak is a linux package format. Bottles is a gui software that makes it easy to run windows software (especially games) on linux (it is a very good gui/management tool for wine)

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I guess the takeaway is that Empress is deranged weird and Skidrow are creepy weird.

[–] DefinitelyNotBirds@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really understand how can a pirate defend DRM

[–] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DRM cracking is treated as a sport by the Scene. They don't actually care about pirate philosophies and such, only the challenge.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 15 points 1 year ago

They like to pretend so.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they feel like they have a moral high ground, they're mistaken. Both empress and skidrow are a piece of trash.

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[–] dansity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm out of the loop. Is there a tl;dr version of what has happened so far?

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is and it's too long.

But basically software hacker taking money and has some weird takes on stuff. Also says they're a girl but probably a guy apparently. Word on the street is they are the only one who can crack some type of DRM so they remain relevant for the moment

[–] Seytoux@lemmy.one 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So.. no disrespect but, are all scenes/crackers really creepy and angry people then?

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[–] noctisatrae@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago

It’s crazy to be talented at reverse-engineering and needing all the attention. Guys, stop fighting a second, you need to be united if you want to defeat the DRMs!

[–] B3_CHAD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] VampireHunterB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

well if they´re trying to get me to stop pirating and buy games even with drm in them well good job. I´d rather pay extra to avoid this stupid drama. Seriously all I wanted was some free games not seeing them showing off their hate boners for the trans community.

We get it you secretly wanna fuck trans people, you´re just too chickenshit to admit it.

"sighhhhh"

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[–] TheObserver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Had quite a great laugh reading that and the empress channel firing back. I just love sitting back and watching it all unfold. I don't care for either group i just want the games. I could care less who does it.

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[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What the actual fuck is wrong is people? What even are these idiots mad at each other over? I couldn't care less about this stupid bullshit. Absolutely fucking unreal behavior here.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Could someone please write a tldr?

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Here is the shortest tldr I could make (I am not a bot):

Ur a Bulgarian dude, not a chick

U don't understand our work

Bounce them titties

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Plus some decent ascii art

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