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[–] echo64@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Every six months, there are new switches. 2 rumors that switch 2 is six months away. This is the way it always is, and new rumors mean nothing. There's been new rumors constantly for years now.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A broken clock is right eventually.

Until it turns out that there is no Switch 2 and Nintendo's next console is the Nintendo Wii Thrii

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Nintendo SwitchU? There's now a display in the Pro Controller, too?

[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

They must be drunk if they dont call it Super Nintendo Switch

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

I think a monkey finger just curled in Japan

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

I had held off getting a switch for years because I figured I'd wait till gen2, grabbed an OLED, and it's already been upgraded to a SD OLED, and there's still no Switch 2 even announced.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

I have a hacked Switch and play PSP games and downloaded ROMs with a bag of popcorn any day I see more rumors news...

(I'd like a Switch 2 regardless for more emulation power, but I think that is why Odin Pro 2 and Steam Deck exist).

[–] JoshuaSlowpoke777@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

One one hand, I don’t trust Kotaku articles as far as I can throw them. On the other hand, I’m hoping the “major games going out of stock” part isn’t gonna be a problem in terms of historical preservation of these games.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's like every other Nintendo first person game. Go try to find a Wii u copy of Mario party or Zelda, they're still pretty much at release price when bought used. Nintendo is great at creating shortages.

[–] Elkenders@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

Switch is a lot more popular though, a lot more copies knocking about.

[–] TAG@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They have a perfectly good explanation in the first paragraph of the article:

it has fans wondering if a Nintendo Selects-style repackaging of these titles

[–] atocci@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago (4 children)

What's the point of those sorts of re-releases? Are the contents any different from the game that was on store shelves previously?

[–] Peekystar@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nope; pretty sure that the Nintendo Selects are just discounted physical releases with a fancy border on their front-facing box art, historically done for some of the best-selling titles on the given console (thus far seen on the Wii, 3DS and Wii U).

[–] picandocodigo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And they did this before with "Player's Choice" on SNES, Game Boy, Nintendo 64, Game Cube and Game Boy Advance.

[–] Kelly@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

And "Nintendo Selects" on Wii U, Wii, & 3DS

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

It's to show case best sellers. Same reason the PS1 did it, and every console since. Also the same reason books have editions that say bestseller on them.

[–] markv@mastodon.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@atocci @picandocodigo @TAG I’d also add that Nintendo has a history / policy of never reducing the price of a game. So if Zelda is $59 at release, it will still be $59 three years later. This avoids people “waiting a year” for the price to drop - if you want the game, you might as well buy it at launch (unless you want to buy it second hand).

[–] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not really true, they discount their games on the eshop all the time. And if you’re talking physical copies, Target and other stores have sales all the time too. It’s just not as good as Ubisoft lowering the price of their games to $20 after a month or whatever, so people bitch and moan.

[–] markv@mastodon.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@Kiosade Both true and fair exceptions, just pointing out their general trend. Wasn’t trying to either bitch or moan 😅

The way I see it, they re-release games that continue selling well 3-4 years after the initial release at a lower price point so they can continue getting revenue from them without losing out to the 2nd hand market. I think many of their games continue selling much longer than typical AAA games.

[–] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

Oh sorry, I wasn’t trying to say you were doing that, it’s just a thing I see quite often whenever this topic comes up.

And yeah, their games are generally pretty good, so they have staying power. This is compared to flavor of the month games where, once the general populace has had their fun with them, they die in a far-off corner, never to be heard of again.

[–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Back in the day of PS2 I remember the greatest hits copies used black and white manuals instead of color copies.

Now that manuals are gone I'm not sure how much different they'd be. Maybe including some DLC similar to a GOTY edition.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I've been saying for a long time that Nintendo clearly buys back and destroys unsold first party stock. That's why you can go search for a first party GameCube game and you'll be paying out the ass for a used copy. I guess it's their way of keeping their games popular and not have unopened copies all over the place

[–] TAG@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

That is a very bold assertion.

I just assume that the Nintendo first party games tend to sell well and sell for a long time, so when they stop getting manufactured, they all sell out and still have a bit of demand left that scoops up used copies. They are not making Madden or Call of Duty, which sell well for a year and then everyone is looking to sell last year's version.

[–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

The GameCube really didn't sell that well. They produced less stock overall, thus less supply compared with other systems like PS2.

When comparing with the ps2 specifically, it gets even more skewed as new ps2 games were still being made and released years after the ps3 came out. Not just new copies, but entirely new games.

[–] craftyindividual@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

The Disney of games companies.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Time to unreasonably hype myself up so I’m inevitably disappointed! Can’t wait for a ray traced F Zero on the Switch 2!

[–] picandocodigo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I'll unreasonably hype myself up with you for that ray traced F-Zero 🤩

[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ray traced 4k 120fps F-Zero, you mean?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

480 hz actually, I saw a company announced a panel that can go that high at CES this week

[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Wow. That must be something.

[–] Grangle1@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If true, the Switch 2 might be coming out sooner than I expected, maybe this summer. I was expecting a spring announcement either way, but a release around the fall for a holiday season showcase. A summer release makes sense too, to leave room for a strong launch window lineup for the holidays.

[–] TAG@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I assume that it is too late to launch this summer. Systems are almost always announced at least 1 year in advance while Nintendo has yet to confirm that they have a design done for their next system.

[–] olmec@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Historically, Nintendo has announced things with that kind of lead time, but as of late, Nintendo has kept announcements much closer to the launch date. The Switch from announcement to launch ( Oct 20-March 3) is 134 days. Today, January 11th, we are 137 days away from Memorial Day (May 27), which is the unofficial start to Summer. The real start, June 21st, is a month after that.

My point is, things are way more open. Nintendo can announce and release the thing very quickly if they want to, and I find that much more likely than the drawn out reveals over 18 months that the Wii and Wii U got.

[–] TAG@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Technically yes, the Switch was announced less than half a year before release, but Nintendo had been talking about it for much longer. In March 2015, that DeNA was helping them develop online play for an upcoming console codenamed the Nintendo NX. In April 2016, they announced the planned release month for the NX: March 2017. They made a soft announcement for the console two years before release and announced a planned release date almost a year before. Granted, during the Wii U era, Nintendo was probably more open with plans than they would have liked to be to keep up investor confidence.

Nintendo has yet to talk about their plans for their next console. All we have heard is rumors that a Nintendo employee was shown off a prototype in a convention hotel room and that certain major developers have new dev kit.

[–] olmec@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

If you count those investor mentions, then sure, the Switch was announced quite a long time before. In my mind, those were so vague, that calling it an announcement was a stretch.

I guess in my mind, I look at the fact that nearly every tech and media company has been moving toward announcing products closer and closer to the release. You go all in on a big marketing plan, rather than a drawn out one for over a year. I am expecting a similar schedule for Nintendo with this new system.

Of course, Nintendo is still so successful with the Switch as is, I can see them feeling significant freedom in making an announcement whenever they want. As you mentioned, there aren't antsy investors to please right now.