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Is it considered acceptable to repost movies or TV shows from Usenet that are not available on any open torrent tracker? Obviously, the reposted content will be left unchanged and will have the exact filename as originally uploaded by the initial uploader.

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[–] GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is piracy. Do whatever you want. Who cares if someone cares.

[–] butter@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago

You wouldn't pirate a pirate, would you?

[–] hempster@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Will I get banned or something because the release is not mine but scene? What about private trackers?

[–] fkn@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Lol. If you have access to scene releases that aren't on a private tracker you will probably get an immediate VIP slot.

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] hempster@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Hmm, so it seems like a shortcut to get a good clout on private trackers.

[–] ancoraunamoka@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 year ago

As another commenter said, please do it.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's probably fine, but some usenet trackers/provider explicitly state that you cannot do that. So check if it's mentioned in the "user agreement"

[–] nicman24@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

is lost fedditors a thing?

[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can though it's a bit of a roundabout way of doing it.

P2P releases typically come from private trackers, so you're having them go from private trackers --> usenet --> public/private torrents

Scene releases that leak to the public typically hit private trackers/usenet around the same time, so you're having those go scene --> private trackers/usenet --> public/private torrents

In others words anything you're seeing in usenet has already been uploaded to at least some private trackers & possibly public torrents.

Of course with public torrents anything goes, unfortunately with the demise of RARBG public torrent users are only seeing a fraction of scene/p2p releases. 1337x/TorrentGalaxy does cover some of this but they aren't covering nearly as much as the RARBG uploaders used to. So IMO if you're seeing a scene/p2p release that hasn't already been uploaded at 1337x/TorrentGalaxy then sure go ahead & create the torrent from your usenet download.

[–] Diminish4036@noworriesto.day 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some indexers have a rule that clearly states users that reupload their NZB files elsewhere will be banned, so idk

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does that mean just the .nzb or the .mp4s too? I've been wondering.

[–] ramenbellic@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In this case, the indexer is talking about the .nzb, which does usually contain an identifier about which account accessed it. Remember that an .nzb is just a plaintext file providing links to the many split .rar files that will be combined during unpacking, plus the parity files that can be used to recreate missing .rar files if one is missing.

Indexers want to prevent the .nzb from being leaked onto the open internet, or to other indexers, to prevent those links from getting a DMCA/NTD takedown request for as long as possible.

There is no way to identify who downloaded a .mp4, they are not fingerprinted & every person who downloads is getting an identical copy. Share them widely.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

plus the parity files that can be used to recreate missing .rar files if one is missing.

OH is that what those strange files are?! I need to figure out how to use those! So if something is missing blocks or like only half the movie works I can recreate it out of the other files?

And ok, I figured that was the case, it seemed from the language used on the indexer that I could totally do exactly what the OP wanted as long as I removed the .nzb (and I guess the other files I forgot about) but I figured the actual "content" wasn't even a part of that rule (and of course they could never enforce it, unless they could correlate those uploads with your downloads.)

[–] ramenbellic@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's a quick guide on understanding .par2 files and how to use them. If you're using SABnzbd or NZBget, it should handle these automatically to "repair" the downloaded file, AFAIK.

Understanding PAR2 Files - HARLEY HAHN'S USENET CENTER

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh my mistake, thought you meant these random .srr and .sfv files I keep finding, just went back and checked the extension. Well good info anyway, thanks! But yeah I guess sabnzbd takes care of that then.

Now if I could only figure out how to build Sonarr from source I'd be set, but ./confgure returns a message proclaiming it doesn't exist, and I am in the untarred directory. I'll have to get on their IRC or something I guess. Stack overflow insists autoconfigure (which my system also thinks isn't real) and "just cd into the directory bro" are the only answers, yet still no Sonarr.

[–] toxictenement@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

.sfv is a text file that lists the crc32's (hash) of the scene release rar files to verify if they are broken/modified in any way. They can sometimes have ascii art in them, or vague info on what topsite the release last went through, but thats rather rare these days. .srr files are created by a program called PyReScene which records exactly how a scene release is rar'd, and with what winrar version to re-create the original release format (rar'd) at a later date. Super useful program for reseeding and cross seeding stuff.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cool, thanks! Good to know!

[–] toxictenement@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, and if you start out with the unpacked files, but don't have a srr file to re-scene them, you can probably find one by searching the release name on srrdb.com. Mileage may vary though.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Cool thanks I'll bookmark it!