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[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 93 points 6 months ago

Just wait till the F-16 sorties start.

You won't be able to swing a cat in here without hitting a whining tankie symp.

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 61 points 6 months ago

Oh no be careful, they might start posting gifs and emojis in response to you, thus nullifying any valid argument you might have!

[-] oatscoop@midwest.social 14 points 6 months ago

The latest lemmy update allows users to block entire instances.

My lemmy experience has been 100 times better with hexbear and lemmygrad blocked.

Unfortunately startrek.website is still running 18, so I'm stuck with playing whack-a-mole

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 6 months ago

...and lemmy.ml as well. It's tanky breading season out here.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Those stories already started, some Russian mil-bloggers say that F16s are already in Ukraine which is probably copium. But I wouldn't be too surprised if this isn't accidental and Ukrainians re-doubled efforts to take down Russian planes (e.g. via smart and unexpected movements of anti-air installations) in anticipations of F16s coming, they're a lot more useful more quickly if they don't have to operate in contested skies. Every air-to-air missile you don't need to have in your loadout is another air-to-ground one.

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[-] realitista@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

Make that 4 as of today.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

Was this the Ghost of Keeeeeeeeeeeeev?

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

The Sukhoi Su-34 (Russian: Сухой Су-34; NATO reporting name: Fullback)[6] is a Soviet-origin Russian twin-engine, twin-seat, all-weather supersonic medium-range fighter-bomber/strike aircraft.[7][8][9][10] It first flew in 1990, intended for the Soviet Air Forces, and it entered service in 2014 with the Russian Air Force.[11]

[-] nekandro@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 months ago

It's sort of a shit design for 2023 tbh.

Sounds like Ukraine got a new air defense system... Maybe they moved a Patriot battery?

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 34 points 6 months ago

It's pretty mid nowadays, nowhere near the levels of the F-22 or F-35. But the F-16 C, D or MLU versions are in almost every way a very modern fighter. Russia does pretty much the same thing, but while an upgrade F-16 is called a 'block 50', an upgraded SU-27 is called an SU-30 (or 34, or 35). They're basically all improved versions of 1970s planes.

The SU57 and Mig-35 are basically non-existent, if not actually so.

The F-16 is absolutely not the best fighter out there anymore, but it's hardly a pushover and at the very least on par with what Russia is fielding.

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[-] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah, that's the theory. Russia had been using the planes to bomb a Ukrainian beachhead from an area that would keep them out of range for the Soviet-era systems Ukraine has in that area, so Ukraine moved a patriot system there, switched off. When the Russians flew in and they got detected on long range radar, they turned on the patriot and fired.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

Background: On 22 December, Ukrainian defenders shot down three Russian Su-34 fighter-bombers on the southern front.

Dude... its been three fucking days. Unless the drop in air sorties went from dozens down to zero and stay that way for weeks to a month, this means absolutely nothing.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

True to you. Strikes were reported as irregular, combing in intense series whenever Russia wanted a bigger impact. Saying just a couple of days of lesser bombing means it made an impact is too optimistic. They could've prepared ammunition for another bigger strike. But journoes need to write news somehow?

[-] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 months ago

Is the Su in Su-34 short for cyka?

[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago
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